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It is not in prime condition, that's for sure and has some edge damage. But on a strict grading basis it has to be better than NVF - obverse wear in the usual places is minimal from what I can see. You may be right about the cleaning, although a lot of these early bronze coins did produce a very light tone, so without seeing etc... In conclusion it is not a valuable coin and not one you could sell simply by stating its grade. If I were to sell, I would simply post a picture and let the buyer make up their own mind. I would say Good VF for the F17. Need a better photo though. I agree it looks cleaned. But again, could just be the photo. Worth pointing out that the F17 is high rarity (Jerrams 50-80 known) and so certainly not worthless, cleaned or not. I would pay £60 for it. On Ebay I imagine it would fetch more.
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£155 for a VG-F 1871 penny... (not really the seller's fault, for once.)
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This site will do the shillings. Wikipedia (NOT a reliable source) has this to say about marks: In England the "mark" never appeared as a coin, but as a money of account only, and apparently came into use in the 10th century through the Danes. It first equalled 100 pence, but after the Norman Conquest equalled 160 pence = 2/3 of the Pound Sterling, or 13 shillings and 4 pence. In Scotland, the Merk Scots comprised a silver coin of this value, issued first in 1570 and afterwards in 1663.
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Collectors' Coins Great Britain 2006 Edition
guyincog replied to Emperor Oli's topic in Rotographic Publications Forum
I probably would have been interested... but how would you have avoided copyright issues? -
Britannia Moneta Token?
guyincog replied to Hussulo's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
It's a bronze medallion issued for the British Empire Exhibition (1924). Value... a few pounds though this one looks cleaned (maybe just the photo). -
1882 penny "none" H? 5 watchers already. I have a feeling somebody is going to throw away a lot of money here...
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Yes, it's a Freeman 96. Often referred to as the 'raised lines' variety but I actually find it easier to identify by the thinner lettering on the obverse: vs Obverse 9 lettering being slightly thicker and much more deeply cut. This is a fairly obvious difference on all but the lowest grade coins.
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This is just one of the differences between the various 1861 reverses. No orb would be Spink reverse G.
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do you know how much this coin would be worth?
guyincog replied to a topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Not an expert, but vicky pennies are my main interest. Almost certainly Gouby obverse C (thin rim, i.e. the relatively common one). Need better pics to identify reverse. Grade F+ Value... about £20 but depends on reverse die. -
I thought token at first... it's fairly crude. But the inscription is correct, and it's not brass like the "good old days" tokens - it appears to be lead with some kind of plating. Diameter is 25-26mm. Weight 4.1g. Any ideas? If it's a token, why use the correct inscription and date? (and risk prison or execution). But if it's a forgery, why not make it the correct weight?
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Approx 6 known according to Gouby (good pictures there, too). Which would be R18 (?). OP probably doesn't have one of those, anyway.
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Tooth means the beads around the border. Look at the date - the '1' will either be directly above a bead, or slightly to one side. The latter is very common.
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Not seen this mentioned anywhere. Small date 1879 penny with missing colon dot in D:G:
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1844 Half Farthing, Inverted U for O in Victoria.
guyincog replied to a topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Looked into this a bit more. Michael Gouby lists this as a minor variety (broken O) and prices it slightly higher (few £) than the usual one. So a bit more valuable but not much.