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??????????????????! Surely accepted wisdom is that the broken tooth is diagnostic for the recessed ears. do we know of a contradictory example??

Wow!!!! David

As always it's a question of where you draw the line. for example the the 1918KN penny exists in at least 4 micro varieties - narrow and wide spaced KN both exist without and without the "bird's foot". I have examples of each as a "completist"; but I'm happy with my EF "normal" example, and wouldn't actively pursue a higher grade of the others Does anyone have a picture of the bird's foot in high grade? David Ta! My example and yours both show the same die crack on the E of DEI - need to relook at my other examples

As always it's a question of where you draw the line. for example the the 1918KN penny exists in at least 4 micro varieties - narrow and wide spaced KN both exist without and without the "bird's foot". I have examples of each as a "completist"; but I'm happy with my EF "normal" example, and wouldn't actively pursue a higher grade of the others Does anyone have a picture of the bird's foot in high grade? David Ta! interestingly both my example and yours show the same die crack on the E of DEI - need to relook at my other examples

As always it's a question of where you draw the line. for example the the 1918KN penny exists in at least 4 micro varieties - narrow and wide spaced KN both exist without and without the "bird's foot". I have examples of each as a "completist"; but I'm happy with my EF "normal" example, and wouldn't actively pursue a higher grade of the others Does anyone have a picture of the bird's foot in high grade? David

Does anyone know off the top of their head what our DG added to the Freeman and Davies catalogue? Just out of interest, Steve, do you also draw the line at the F numbers, or do you fish out the extra Gouby's and Groom's? 1959 1/S 1944 1d 1918 farthings 1915/16 recessed ears 1912 halfpennies 1911 6d 1911 1d 1911 halfpennies 1911 farthings 1906 1/- 1904 1/- 1903 1/- off the top of my head (kinda). Sorry if I missed any, Dave! 1918KN penny with bird's foot flaw - DG says present in other years but I've not found any Peck mentions it as a footnote, but not in Freeman

Unusual, normally streaky rather than flecks Nearly all the world bronze sets I've looked at (from a wide rangen of mints) show this phenomenon in some issues, The Americans sometimes refer to "wood grain toning" but more likely poor quality control in producing blanks in my view

A repsonse ive had "This is the position of the obverse from the reverse" How is an easy way of testing this or comparing it? Modern British coins are minted with "medal striking" ie the obverse and reverse designs are the same way up (frappe medaille) French coins (pre Euro) were minted with "coin striking" the reverse is upside down with respect to the reverse (frappe monnaie) Not got any Euro coins to hand, but I think that all circulation pieces are frappe medaille so a frappe monnaie coin is a major error

"Half a Dollar" was in common usage for the halfcrown in Liverpool when i was a lad - found it confusing because £1 was US $2.80 at the time

It's really strange how different threads show on the forum. I always click 'view new content,' and generally read everything before clicking 'view new content' again (to check for posts added whilst I was reading), before finally marking all as read! You'd think that would have me seeing everything, however, even with this approach I still stumble upon significant threads - which have had endless responses, which I should have picked up on with my method - that have just passed me by! Very weird! With your zoomed photography, I couldn't say underlying E. It looks more like a partially clogged B to me. Has the B/E every been clearly recorded? Interesting approach. I dive into each forum that has the "New posts" dark folder. Then within that, I dive into each topic that has the gold "New posts" folder. That way I should be able to see everything. And if I leave a topic and someone has been adding a new post, it shows gold again, so I can look again. So there really IS more than one way to skin a cat! Will give your approach the once-over tomorrow! I just click on the "show new content" when I log in; and click "mark all items as read" before I log out

Le Franc IX (2012) gives:- F.140/1 1941 Cmes NOT underlined F.140/2 1941 Cmes underlined F.140/3 .1941. Cmes underlined F.140/4 .1941. Cmes NOT underlined (two examples known) No variation in edge reeding noted for the 4 types, but an irregular minting with weights varying between 2.35g to 2.86g, total mintage was 235,875,200 so scope for lots of variations given wartime conditions methinks Warning also to beware filled dies and weak strikes, so diffcult to know given the awful condition most of these zinc coins are normally found in

lots of fakes of these, I have one somewhere, I'll dig a picture out later David I think it is fake David, that's the reason i asked him to take it off of ebay until he finds out exactly Forgot I'd promised to post my fake 5 pesetas - bottom is a real one from my Spanish catalogue Details are crude, plus initials AS? do not appear on the real one Don't think are modern Chinese fakes, more likely locally produced "souvenirs" for tourists. mine came in a job lot several years ago

Where did you get your information from? The 18thC was the era of chronic shortage of copper coins, but after the sporadic mintages of Geo IIII and William IIII, from Victoria onwards, the mintage of copper, and then bronze, was huge. Sorry, I don't have any information about the counterstamp A very common coin with a private counterstamp - very little value other than as a curiosity The only counterstamp of note on these Spanish bronze pieces are the very rare Puerto Rico issues counterstamped with a device similar to a fleur de lis The punch was intended for use to revalue silver coins, the bronze was counterstamped in error I've only seen two on Ebay over the years and both went for well above my budget

It is, high tide Freemans 148 or Gouby BP1897C I like the description "EXC GRADE COIN LUSTRE VINTAGE" What looks like a dot is going to turn out to be a fleck of dust but a high tide 1897 for £11 is also a result. you are right! just shows we see what we want to see - I had a squint at it because it had attracted a couple of bids - convinced myself it was a O'NE which I haven't got an example of - never looked at the shield or sea level back on Ebay correctly described then, not as good as one I already have Horrid bog standard 1897 penny arrived today, definitely not the coin illustrated I hate ebay some days A nice, courteous seller he agreed he'd sent the wrong coin - he had two 1897 pennies and had photographed the two side by side - one head one tail here is the second coin A clear high tide but not the O'NE variety the spot looks convincing in the right light, but it did not scan, and the microscope shows it's a ding in an interesting location. C'est la vie, but faith in human nature restored On the plus side, the seller has asked me to explain the differences, so maybe this will kindle his interest

It is, high tide Freemans 148 or Gouby BP1897C I like the description "EXC GRADE COIN LUSTRE VINTAGE" What looks like a dot is going to turn out to be a fleck of dust but a high tide 1897 for £11 is also a result. you are right! just shows we see what we want to see - I had a squint at it because it had attracted a couple of bids - convinced myself it was a O'NE which I haven't got an example of - never looked at the shield or sea level back on Ebay correctly described then, not as good as one I already have Horrid bog standard 1897 penny arrived today, definitely not the coin illustrated I hate ebay some days

It is, high tide Freemans 148 or Gouby BP1897C I like the description "EXC GRADE COIN LUSTRE VINTAGE" What looks like a dot is going to turn out to be a fleck of dust but a high tide 1897 for £11 is also a result. you are right! just shows we see what we want to see - I had a squint at it because it had attracted a couple of bids - convinced myself it was a O'NE which I haven't got an example of - never looked at the shield or sea level back on Ebay correctly described then, not as good as one I already have

In a similar vein to the original thread, have i just bought an 1897 O'NE penny ?? 7 bidders so I guess I wasn't the only one to suspect it was - need to wait for the postman David

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I've been browsing a CD of Krause World Coins 2011 edition covering all coins issued 2001-2010 Although I primarilary collect "penny" sized bronze, I have over the years built a considerable type collection of world-wide copper and bronze minors, a sideline interest culled from circulation, junk trays, bulk buys and holiday change. So always interested to see what types I haven't yet got an example of This Krause covers about 200 coin issuing territories (ignoring fanatsies like Andorra) Only 9 countries - Australia, China (Taiwan), Denmark, Papua New Guinea, Sweden, Switzerland, Tonga, Trinidad & Tobago, and the United Emirates have issued bronze coins The vast majority of nominally bronze issues are now copper plated steel - UK, Euro zone, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Brazil, Brunei, Canada, Cayman Is, Falkland Is, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Guyana, Jersey, Isle of Man, Kenya, Malawi, Malaysia, Mauritius, Mozambique, New Zealand, Niue, Oman, Phillipines, Romania, St Helena, Solomon Is, South Africa, Suriname, and Tristan da Cunha. Barbados, Fiji, Panama and The United States of America issue copper plated zinc coins This means that about 75% of issuing countries have turned their back on even a semblance of "coppers" in loose change - various brass alloys and brass clad steel seem to be the fashion One wonders how many of todays issues will escape corrosion for future collectors. David

CGB are not shy with there prices are they! As a publisher and a reference souce, CGB is one of the best coin sites worldwide in my view, sadly their retail prices for coins are horrendous

Might be your best option, there are US collectors A revolution, napoleonic wars, franco-prussian war, WW1, WW2 - hard times - most will have ended in the melting pot, as I said above there are lots of coins where no or very few examples are known, new discoveries frequently appear in CGB's Numismatic bulletin Mint records in france are often unreliable, so all mintages should be taken with the proverbial pinch of salt Droulers gives far more useful info than Gadoury in my opinion, but horses for courses French collectors are different, die varieties are nowhere near as popular as here in the UK

A lot of French coins are rare, so assembling a complete date/mint run for most issues prior to the second Empire (Louis Napoleon 1952-1870) is unattainable even with deep pockets, thus most french collectors collect Royalissues by type

Oddly the 1897 F148 is still undervalued by comparison this one is one of the very few I've seen on Ebay far rarer than the books suggest