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I think you also seem to be getting the wrong Impression of why i exploded scottishmoney. I will explain, but before i do, i also noticed you've deleted my comment on this thread from last night. This Explosion was nothing to do what so ever with this thread and American TPGs, it was to do with FACT that the American poster has been Digging HIS CLAWS into me for the past 2 weeks which you can see from several threads such as "toned coins" thread and another. Now when you start deleting my comments and not looking at the cause then i think its getting a little one sided don't you? As is Aid in my deleted comment, i'll make my apologies to the forum for my outburst but not to the poster who Sees fit to continually goad me about my opinion (which is a perfectly good opinion) although according to him, my opinion does'nt really count as you can see from the beginning of this topic

Just think of it as a minor hiccup Stuart but always keep the eye on the ball because as a coiny you'll bounce back. I wish though you'd have thrown the link up earlier, i would have taken a Stab at that coin. I assume due to it being so near Christmas that people are'nt spending as much, i just hope the same applies at DNW

£282 final bid. Cheap

I've heard Ozzy Osborne and Black Sabbath are doing a reunion tour and are doing Munich, so that's on my list for next year. Peter, what do you think of Bowies newer stuff? I personally think he went downhill after the late 80s

this guy auditioned for a s small bit Part in the 1990s Movie The Commitments, but when they heard his Voice he got the Main Part. Andrew Stromg

Unfortunately you got the wrong harter this time I think you need to tone your hatered of me down or else i'm going to be speaking to the forum owner about the possibility of you being removed. I have nothing against your coins but i'm now having a problem with your somewhat hate towards me. Now i've asked nicely this time.Oh and p.s, you obviously don't seem to quite get it. I dislike AT toned coins where people practise this in order to gain mamy more $s than a coin is worth, this is practised mainly in America, the 4d you've displayed is an attractive naturally toned coin.

Lol, brillant Scott, but watch out, we have a negative investigator on the forum

Exactly what i said a few days ago about Londons Vicky. They must be losing revenue by not using online bidding

I'd best not say anything, don't want to be accused of being negative towards coins but my god are'nt they crap lovely

Lol, lets not go there Peter, but agree with Peter, nice slabbed shilling there and the 5 cents

Thi ´s is very true, our difference is that we're not being told by large multinational companies that slabbing is the only way to achieve coin greatness. America is driven by Marketing companies who tell you that you must blah blah blah or else and the poor souls buy into it so much so that they swap/sell a coin for a Point more on a slab, what is 1 Point exacvtly, could you Point it out on the two same coins side by side? In the UK, we buy coins becaise of the history of them, who has owned them before us etc, this is my Points and absolutely NOTHING to do with American bashing as according to the poster. There are several American collectors on here who have'nt bought into the TPG mentality, those are true collectors in my opinion, those are the People who want to collect for the history and not for the Dollar, so forgive me Vicky and Bob if it has come across like that, and my aploogies to the rest of the Forum. I'm a passionate collector as you all know.

I find that the Australian auction houses and Heritage generally start at around book price for grade. Heritage being startospheric with their hammer prices. DNW is getting a bit popular with foreign buyers which in turn is pushing prices even higher. It may take a rethink Rob because i can see Spink being outdated fairly quickly next year and a lot of frustrated bidders. Hopefully my comment was'nt to negative

2nd thread for you to read http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/8278-very-suspect-grading-by-pcgs/ Please not that the 2nd poster is American. Can you see his negative comment towards the coin grading? So lets see what you say about his negative comment

You can start by reading this thread and all it contains, including the link to the other forum, i wonder how many other people you can see from this forum being negative about the coin in question, yet as i keep saying, you seem to be trying to pick on me, you've picked the wrong man http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/8267-comments-welcome-on-this-1892-26/ When you've read all that then pöease Feel free to comment. I'll post another link shortly and see if you pick on anyone else who said something negative about your dear american TPG. If you don't have a dig at anyone else after reading the. I'll know you have a problem with just me and then see what we can do about you

I have collected for 25 years, all that while in the American market. I have owned 1,000+ graded coins from NGC and/or PCGS, and many thousands more that were raw. I have regularly attended shows, and followed all major auctions in the USA for the past 5+ years. It is simply not true that we worship plastic and grade labels as an entire country of collectors. Further, your obsession with disavowing the occasional rainbow-toned coin in plastic is massively over-emphasized. Most TPG-graded coins sold in the USA are properly graded by our Sheldon 70-point scale, and the proportion that are mis-graded is far less than your comments would lead one to believe. You will notice that I don't have strong (and vulgar) opinions of the CGS and UK coin grading market -- mostly because I prefer to only chime in on topics for which I have sufficient experience. Where I do feel I have seen enough to be informed is to say that LondonCoins is someplace I will not purchase from. The quality is simply not there, not to mention the handful of clear counterfeit coins they sell but seem to not care about. So, what are your "credentials" -- since I don't know you from Adam -- enlighten me. Because, all I've seen here on this forum is your incessant regurgitation of anti-American collector sentiment. Almost every post you make here is judgmental and negative. How am I to perceive who you are besides from your replies here. Cheers. Funnily enough you've the 1st one to say i have an anto American collector Sentiment and there is more americans on this forum than just you yet i've not heard them say that. You came onto this forum and then have an Agenda with me, you tell me nearly every post i make is negative. Here is my tuppence worth. Go check my 2-3 years worth of posts and give me the ratio of negative posts that you CLAIM i've made, Beat in mind i have a few thousand posts, then get back to me. Now, back to your "properes graded coins.I'll return to reply to that when i have the thread that accumulator started about a coin graded "properly apparently" by PCGS 0, then take a wee looksy at that and then come back and give me another laugh

Really? You clearly don't follow the Asian and Australian markets then...as collectors in those two realms also place quite a bit of emphasis on reputable TPGs, including PCGS and NGC. This little bit is juvenile at the least, and frankly misleading. I will not reply to this claim directly, other than to say that I hope Mynki understands the statement is a feeble attempt by the poster to dig in his anti-American claws just a bit deeper. Having nearly 6,000 posts on this forum doesn't make someone infallible, so take the comments of azda cum grano salis. Thats twice you've had a dig at me personally. If you have a ******* problem with me the spit it out. I'm not a Fan of American TPGs or a Fan of how the AMERICANS make more of an emphasis on the slab number other than the coin inside. You saying "you won't reply to this claim directly claiming its feeble is a freaking joke also as you did reply to it, but my reply was to the OP and not to you so if you Chose not to reply to it i personally don't give a ****** ****. I also don't follow the Australian or Asian market. Now, if you dislike my dislike of how the Americans collect a slab other than whats inside then please don't ******* comment on my reply. Your comments are massively over-generalized and outright false. Furthermore, you clearly have no experience in the American market, so I don't think you are qualified nor do you have any business making such ill-informed generalizations. I was merely amending your unjustified and uneducated assessment of the American market. I think your use of profanity speaks volumes; if one is truly knowledgeable in their field (i.e., has evidence instead of just stories), then there is no need to be so dramatic and vulgar. Best to stick with what you know -- that apparently being the UK/European market. I did'nt realise you have to be qualified to have an opinion. Here in the EU we have a Freedom of speech. Here's my opinion, go fuck yourself you cock You can have all the opinions you'd like, that doesn't make them reality. The OP was asking for advice. When offering advice, I prefer informed opinions. My opinion of your advice is that it is ill-informed. I have every right to that opinion just as you do to your opinion. For the rest of your issues, I will merely state that you may want to consult the newly released DSM-V. So your advice is informed and mine is i'll-informed, lmfao. So i obviously have to ask, seeing as how you don't know me from adam yet keep attacking me for no reason at all, why is your advice informed and mine i'll-informed

Geezus, so your advice is SO better than mine because you are? You believe you are well informed and versed on American coin Sales/slabs etc. I believe i'm well versed in what Americans buy and why they buy certain coins, this will be due to a certain slab number and the tone of a coin, please tell me i'm wrong So my advice was from my perspective and again, its my opinion. What are your credentials again, just so i know when i must bow in your presence oh great one. You Worked for or at any TPGs, are you a Director of ebay or some other auction house, come, Tell me why your advice is sooooooo better than mine

Really? You clearly don't follow the Asian and Australian markets then...as collectors in those two realms also place quite a bit of emphasis on reputable TPGs, including PCGS and NGC. This little bit is juvenile at the least, and frankly misleading. I will not reply to this claim directly, other than to say that I hope Mynki understands the statement is a feeble attempt by the poster to dig in his anti-American claws just a bit deeper. Having nearly 6,000 posts on this forum doesn't make someone infallible, so take the comments of azda cum grano salis. Thats twice you've had a dig at me personally. If you have a ******* problem with me the spit it out. I'm not a Fan of American TPGs or a Fan of how the AMERICANS make more of an emphasis on the slab number other than the coin inside. You saying "you won't reply to this claim directly claiming its feeble is a freaking joke also as you did reply to it, but my reply was to the OP and not to you so if you Chose not to reply to it i personally don't give a ****** ****. I also don't follow the Australian or Asian market. Now, if you dislike my dislike of how the Americans collect a slab other than whats inside then please don't ******* comment on my reply. Your comments are massively over-generalized and outright false. Furthermore, you clearly have no experience in the American market, so I don't think you are qualified nor do you have any business making such ill-informed generalizations. I was merely amending your unjustified and uneducated assessment of the American market. I think your use of profanity speaks volumes; if one is truly knowledgeable in their field (i.e., has evidence instead of just stories), then there is no need to be so dramatic and vulgar. Best to stick with what you know -- that apparently being the UK/European market. I did'nt realise you have to be qualified to have an opinion. We all know that Americans buy AT coins in slabs at hyper inflated prices because of their marketing ploys. Take your head from out of your ****, the Brits are'nt as gullable. Einfach. Now just don't reply to anymore of my comments.

And to everyone else i make my apologies to, but this idiot has pushed my Buttons once too many times. He talks like i'm some sort of racist, but just to clear that up, i live with my Turkish girlfriend who is Muslim before he starts again

Really? You clearly don't follow the Asian and Australian markets then...as collectors in those two realms also place quite a bit of emphasis on reputable TPGs, including PCGS and NGC. This little bit is juvenile at the least, and frankly misleading. I will not reply to this claim directly, other than to say that I hope Mynki understands the statement is a feeble attempt by the poster to dig in his anti-American claws just a bit deeper. Having nearly 6,000 posts on this forum doesn't make someone infallible, so take the comments of azda cum grano salis. Thats twice you've had a dig at me personally. If you have a ******* problem with me the spit it out. I'm not a Fan of American TPGs or a Fan of how the AMERICANS make more of an emphasis on the slab number other than the coin inside. You saying "you won't reply to this claim directly claiming its feeble is a freaking joke also as you did reply to it, but my reply was to the OP and not to you so if you Chose not to reply to it i personally don't give a ****** ****. I also don't follow the Australian or Asian market. Now, if you dislike my dislike of how the Americans collect a slab other than whats inside then please don't ******* comment on my reply.

Lol, it will happen more often than not Vicky when a new poster comes along and asks the same question. What i would say is that each to their own, we all agree to disagree and not everyone will give the same opinion, thats what makes us all individuals

Legendery

Welcome Mynki. Are you looking to slab your own coins or buy slabbed coins? If you are intending to sell your coins into an international market then PCGS would be the better option because those Crazy Yanks will buy the slab number instead of whats actually inside, if you know how to artificially tone them beforehand you'll make a fortune n the American market. If you intend to buy to slab for your own collection and the coins you want slabbing are English then CGS are probably the better option but they now have a turnaround of a Maximum of 3 months which is far to Long in my opinion and have also raised their fee to £30 a submission. PCGS now have an office in Paris, you can join their Club for a fee and get up to 8 free submissions depending on your membership level

Yes and if you notice, the moron even has a mousemat on a private sale which costs 50p? Now with the new feedback system he does'nt realise yet that he's throwing cash away. He's probably shilling the mousemat too lol

Found this out walking apparently, knows bugger all about coins but did manage to put it into the correct catagory. 171179660428