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So that would beg the ultimate question of how many were adjusted

Repetitive tasks get hard wired into the brain, so you can almost do them in your sleep your handwriting will be different to mine, even though we are both using the same tools (pens) and producing the same object (words) from the same base resource (letters) IF you were the only man doing the repetitive task, even if he were, he could'nt replicate exactly 100 times what he did the 1st time, surely?

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Not so, a skilled worker would be able to get almost identical weights every time, and his work would be recognisable. Given Rob's comments re low circulation, I think he may be onto something useful Even so David, a skilled worker could not replicate anothers work exactly, like identical angles etc, much like an engraver could'nt replicate anothers work It isn't so much recreating the angles as replicating the style of trimming. Is it a quick snip, snip; or is it 6 to 8 snips made by moving gently around the edge to reduce the ensuing irregularity? That is two different styles. Ok, my next question would be, why would they recreate a style of angle during trimming? Why replicate? Why were'nt they crudely trimmed? Sorry, just putting hurdles in there so we can think outside the box

Not so, a skilled worker would be able to get almost identical weights every time, and his work would be recognisable. Given Rob's comments re low circulation, I think he may be onto something useful Even so David, a skilled worker could not replicate anothers work exactly, like identical angles etc, much like an engraver could'nt replicate anothers work

What I'm saying is that with a distinct style of flan trimming, it may be possible to assign each group to an un-named individual. It should also be mentioned that if you look at Besly's article in the 1992 BNJ, the early halfcrowns, shillings and half unites could arguably be similarly categorised. Thinking out loud, it would suggest that the group with 2 main cuts was trimmed by holding the point opposite the angle and taking off a larger piece than on the multiply clipped coins where an attempt appears to have been made to retain most of the design. Two distinct groups of coins which I think corresponds to two individuals. This would suggest trimming at the mint given the consistency. Ok, excuse my ignorance of the subject, but merely thinking over the possibility. The person who trimmed these coins would have to have some sort of definitive size/weight that a coin should be, if the coin was say overweight he'd trim the coin in certain positions to bring it into weight, surely this would entail some sort of jig or device which was adapted for such measures. Another question which i ask myself is, how many years did the same group appear and is it possible for the same person to do the same job for those periods? Hopefully the questions don't sound stupid

Of course it can be useful Rob, but only if you had the information to hand. Are you saying that all those coins are basically as were struck and could give an indication of where and when by the shape of each coin? None of these have been clipped in any way?

Yey, that works even better ... Grammatically correct too, Peck take note ... True, but there isn't any combination of "t" and "o" (or even "oo") Lass mich überlege und komm ich zurück Sie haben 24 Stunden ... Tut tut Paul. You know me, so its du, also, du hast 24 stunden, biite die richtige Grammitks

nearly as old as me!!!! .....me too would you agree that grade is fine?. I won't grade it...How do you grade hammered? It is a very nice coin.Each one a one off.I would love it. Agreed Peter, hammered is harder in My eyes to grade and i personally like it to/too/two and even twa (twa is scottish for 2 Peck) Thought i'd throw all the too' in so Peck can take his pick which is correct. Covered all the bases now

Yey, that works even better ... Grammatically correct too, Peck take note ... True, but there isn't any combination of "t" and "o" (or even "oo") Lass mich überlege und komm ich zurück

Invite? Took me thinks

She obviously likes chaffed thighs Peter

Welcome......and which coins interest you?

I'm a poet and don't know it

I only wear a skirt during hunting season Peter, the thong on the other hand does'nt half chalf though

Welcome to the forum Nicky. I would venture to suggest that you've increased the female population by 100% (unless there's something strange going on), but then I'd be accused of being to maths what Peckris is to english Viccy Silver isn't a female then? Viccy Silver i think refers to Victoria silver and probably the area of collecting. Welcome to the Forum weebo Yes, I was only joking, who is the other one then if there is one? Pureangel is female but doesn't post ... Ermmmm Debbie lol, unless her Name is really Big Dan?

Welcome to the forum Nicky. I would venture to suggest that you've increased the female population by 100% (unless there's something strange going on), but then I'd be accused of being to maths what Peckris is to english Viccy Silver isn't a female then? Viccy Silver i think refers to Victoria silver and probably the area of collecting. Welcome to the Forum weebo

I wonder if he realises that his Web address has a spelling mistake in it. I'll leave it to Peck to chastise him for it

Speaking of Crowns. Found this first pictured one and was trying to compare of one from Londons, the first picture is more obvious of a 7 over 8 as there is no straight line in an 8 but was struggling with the Londons type which is the 2nd picture

And in return John you could speak to my Frau and mother-in-law and see if you can make any sense Out of both of them

i think hes not scottish at all....ive a feeling hes french and is trying to say There is a mental hospital just on the outskirts of Dundee called Liff, i wonder if he's escaped. Oh and BTW i really did understand Cantonnas Seagull trawler quote lol

You should have replied YES as i use a 2012 Edition lol. Maybe he does'nt realise that there is another edition out lol

I think he's as Mad as his Description of King George TBH. I can't believe anyone takes him seriously, his replies are bizzare and his grades are weird.

So i offered him to come along and join in the discussion about his grading and here was his reply. I'm not interested to contact what indicates to be a un-education cult. Possible my decision aren't right, but having you with such a recommendation. Capiche! Regards. - yestodtom Maybe someone Else can recommend the forum to him?

He tells me he"s been in the business 50 years, i asked how that was possible with the grading. Perhaps he's 90 now and blind? Would have to be blind to buy some of those grades