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Best posting a new oicture because yours definately does'nt Look EF from your picture. So, judging from the other commenr "did any get Out" you're hoping its an error worth cash? I'd go with Robs theory of acid

EF-UNC? From the picture i'd say Fine grade

You'd be better sending it to CGS, but your coin and good luck whatever you do with it

Both cutout Dates were from London auctions, so that would be 2, both were EF so much higher graded than yours hence the £3800 figure also they. Stated POSSIBlY once cleaned. Another thing going for that One is provenance. In 2010 there was also VG/F sold for £650 and also a Fine in 2005 for £550 so that makes 4. I'm noting that you seem to want to push the coins value, a collector will only pay what its worth to them for Grade and type, the Londons coin was EF, hence the price of £3800, yours in VF so would'nt get near those prices but might make bottom end of 4 figures depending how the whole coin looks. American slabs that pass through London coins are sometimes diwngraded by Londons than what is on the slab, so also bear that in mind, i don't think i've seen the whole coin OBV/REV yet and whether its a VF UK grade or a lower American grade

The overdates are not bringing anymore than an 1850 would. Check london Coins past sales results for both dates along with DNW or any other British auction House

No, that's not fair. It's not 'slacker', it's just different. In other words their EF is lower than ours, but is consistently lower, same with AUNC, and so on. Their grading is as consistent as ours (should be), but their grades don't exactly match ours. Just saying.. And the XF45 in the eBay Laughs section which is clearly VF? I'll stick to My opinion that their grading is slacker than ours

Would be a Good idea to ask any TPG about that, but i think they garauntee against it being a fake. Does make you wonder though, if they misattribute a penny saying its a high tide when its clearly not how will they actually know a Fake from a genuine coin. That high tide Penny is such a glaring error on their behalf, makes you Wonder

A bit of shill bidding going on here anyone? Possibly, but he's going to have to relist it because i won it. Just waiting on him emailing me for payment then i'll let him know (he already does) that its pewter, but wondering if HE will tell me this first as a good ebay seller _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Could'nt wait, so i've emailed him Hello, been waiting for you to contact me about this coin. Was actually wanting to see if you were an honest seller or not, and it seems not. Reason being is that i know you had several emails during this auction telling you that this coin was made of pewter, yet you've failed to tell me this so far and you also failed to update your auction stating this, and that can only be for one reason, you wanted it sold as original. There is a very good British coin forum which i'm a member of and your coin was pointed out on that forum, your wording in the auction does'nt really wash either as you've sold coins and sell a few coins and you certainly knew the date, but your WHAT IS IT quote was really quite amusing. So, what we can do is either you sell it as a pewter fake (as you know it is) and i can forget feedback, or you can try again selling as the real deal and i can leave a nice feedback. P.s the forum name is predecimal.com/forum look under free for all then under ebay laughs.

The 50/49 is regarded rarer in spink but looking at previous auction results the 50/49 has Seen a few more than an 1850. The one i uploaded to your thread was one i owned and sold this year. I'm Not sure what yours is graded at i don't recall it being mentioned, but being in an American slab can have its downsides, ie, their grading is slacker than ours plus it has 50/46 which could make People sceptical....Its difficult to call, but i'd personally Take it Out of the slab and if you decided to sell, sell as the 50/49 variety but kerp the Ticket and maybe write a note to the buyer with an explaination of the ticket. My 1850 was NVF and sold for £1800

You'd have to submit it like you would with any other TPG. They just can't answer on the strength of a picture, they'd have to have the coin in hand for identification

Was trawling and came across this. 1st question, is it genuine? Anyone have access to the PCGS database to check the serial, if so, is the coin pictured the same as this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREAT-BRITAIN-FLORIN-1902-SILVER-PCGS-PF63-MATTE-/370597879621?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item56495adf45 If genuine, then fine, if not, slab collectors should be worried. Matt Proof, but seems to be quite heavily toned. Looking back at Pies Matte Shilling, there's quite a difference, so just curious

I'm actually going with the 50/49 verdict. I've uploaded 2 seperate date cut outs from different coins date 50/49 and can see no differences between these and yours with the thickness of the 0. Another thing i do want to clear uop. If you take a look in the FREE FOR ALL section of this forum and under EBAY LAUGHS there you will see a glaring error by NGC of a common coin that they've slabbed as a High Tide Penny American TPGs hold no water for me at all. To get confirmation of a yes or no of your date i'd send it to CGS in the UK, but i'm afraid i'm in the 1850/49 camp

There was a very High Grade Florin posted by palves and was fiound to be fake. There was also a dot underneath the I of BRIT But if the dot was a genuine die flaw, wouldn't that too get reproduced on the fake? Maybe the only coins containing the dots are known fakes, but it would only take one genuine coin with dots, to disprove the theory. Well i guess we'll just have to keep our eyes open for the same die flaws, i forgot Palves date Florin, don't think it was the same as this one, which would again make it strange if the dots were in the same place on to different years.

It was that harington dude, i even emIled 4hrs ago to tell him it was pewter and he still made 3 bids the Tool

www.goofbay.com there on the Main Page you can Check with the article number. The Tool is called "most populär" bottom right Main page

Believe it or not, the coin has 60 watchers Wonder how many are from the forum Q: Hello. what is the weight of this item also the thickness A: hi there, kit weighs 2.9 grams on my scales, its about 1mm thick, viewing welcome, kind regards, dan

There was a very High Grade Florin posted by palves and was fiound to be fake. There was also a dot underneath the I of BRIT

Short and quick answer is no. Your shield on the REV is to near the rim

I have My German one, but when i win it i'll drop him a wee line telling him i dislike pewter and ask if he likes cherries. In this case he has been told several days in advance that the coin was fake and yet he sent Peck an Email today saying he can't unfortunately change it. Lets see if he'll change it before i send a cherry. He has the option, his way or mine

Oh yes, I see it - tiny, right? There appears to be two in fact. There again, it/they could be anything - a minute die flaw for example. Yes there's 2 spots. As i said, it might just be me

Always amazes me that such ancient quality coins can be acquired at affordable prices, those are great Hus! Good Romans are plentiful. Not surprising when you consider the size and sophistication of that economy and culture. But yes, it's good that so many are available at such reasonable prices. Ironically, when you look at the late Republic and early Empire, the silver coins are much more affordable than the bronzes. That's true, especially in better condition. I guess a lot of bronzes have been damaged after being in the ground for so long. Some of the silver became quite debased as well. Beautiful coins, really well struck

Look under the I peck and nearer the forehead

Dropping the buyer a link to this thread would be class! Winning bidder so far is fhharrington 5th page of FB How do you do that? An element of deduction My dear Dr Watson. The user has bought from him before. I checked the high bidder initials and score, it was 56 when i was checking, it then changed to 57 so it had to be one and the same. The hidden names initials in the bidders list fit the ebay name along with score after trawling through his FB No s**t Sherlock, that's clever! You could've been John's Jam Sandwich partner, and talked coins all day long! That's a £50+ piece of pewter now, with 3hrs still to go! Might make a nice VF price! It can go to 200 quids worth of pewter, it won't sell Now i'm winning the bid

Following on from this thread and all things China. Palves threw up a Florin recently that was faked. I'm not sure, but this could be another, this time 1852 from a British seller. I got a little suspicious when i noticed his old coins then three shiny new looking ones he had in Very high grades. He has a Queen Anne shilling along with a William III plus this Florin, all look too good, but it might just be my suspicious nature. Below the I in BRITT you can see a raised spot. See what you think............Oh, ebay link is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221111535764;jsessionid=CDAB242623CFDB4219B5B2A3BFAA05EB?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D221111535764%26_rdc%3D1 and the others i'm also looking at (Queen Anne http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fabulous-1708-Queen-Anne-Silver-Shilling-e6210-/221111520850?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item337b460e52 and (William III http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beautiful-Condition-William-III-Silver-1700-Shilling-e6211-/320967543144?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item4abb280968 Hopefully the floin picture is big enough to see the spot under BRIT

Dropping the buyer a link to this thread would be class! Winning bidder so far is fhharrington 5th page of FB How do you do that? An element of deduction My dear Dr Watson. The user has bought from him before. I checked the high bidder initials and score, it was 56 when i was checking, it then changed to 57 so it had to be one and the same. The hidden names initials in the bidders list fit the ebay name along with score after trawling through his FB