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This is the 2nd 1934 wreath crown this seller has sold within the Last few weeks http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151649979969?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D151649979969%26_rdc%3D1

Yes, considering there was'nt much noteworthy Changes in prices this year i'll not be buying the 2016 edition at the end of this year. It seems it's easier just to check realised prices, but the variables come into play above VF for hammered coinage of which it's easier winning the lottery than to Even get a grasp of those right now. it seems like you just double the VF Price of the coin in question and you have your figure. Although, saying all that, for a more realistic price Guide for Milled, the CCGB is out there, but nothing for hammered as realistic as CCGB

I thought we were talking the other way around, for milled it's fine but for hammered not Because as Nicholas pointed out, there are no prices for hammered above VF Plus the rarer variations of hammered coins which it does'nt go into depth on

Spink are generally about 6 months out of touch as they compile Prices from the previous year, check www.londoncoins.co.uk and look for realised Prices from their most recent auctions

Bugger that, live separately till the divorce comes through

For grade i'd say near fine/fine and value perhaps between £350-£500. Just as an aside, what the current BoE says the money paid back then is worth now is a little irrelevant, it's what the coin is worth now. Do you have a copy of Spink 2015? Or even have a look through some recent auction realised prices to get a true reflection of its possible value

Asi said above, ithink itsthe reason there's not many live bids onthe day, probably more postal bids and at above the mineythey're worth, although i may have missed the couple that have been undergraded

Lol, a lotto win this week would be good

I just Need to slot this in here regarding My comment. As you can see from the link to the post from MHCOINS how many People who commented were happy with what they bought from Lockdales? A Low grade brings low prices and low commission to the auction House. I assume you listen online to their auctions or Even perhaps attend, what strikes me is the amount of times that when the auctioneer Starts the coin off At X PRICE there are hardly or no other bids afterwards, or the "one more bid and i'm out" an auctioneer should'nt be saying that, he is supposed to be impartial, but i digress from my opinion, they overgrade more often than is normal in any catalogue, 1 or 2 might be acceptable, but these are supposed to a Professional body of auctioneers and should'nt be doing this every coin catalogue that comes out.The halfcrown that Paul posted, NEF as their grade, would you agree with that? With higher grades comes higher prices. I also notice you're based in Ipswich which is where Lockdales are

Cleaning is detremental to a coin and not describing as such especially through an experienced auction house would then lead to being open for a return, such as a holed coin would be. The new concept of deacribing something as "of bright appearance" which is cropping up quite often these days is more or less another way of substituting "cleaned" from the Description, which in turn would mean low estimates and bids

Herne is the Thread that MHCOINS started about Lockdales, ist also Sems that 1 or 2 Sent some coins back for cleaning, it Males interesting reading, als you can see Mark, it's not just me who slates them for overgrading http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/9548-lockdales/

Proof for me Deep cameo first strike FDCMS72

Proof for me

Thanks Dave, exactly what I thought, how could it be otherwise?Head, brick wall and banging come to mind, but as I said earlier, I've had previous with online auctions, well one in particular and have been through all trading standards site and knew the legal standpoint for online auctions. eBay is entirely a different entity

If they sold you a fake or previously holed coin I bet you could return it? The coins that were fake NO, I lost £400 because of their technical jargon, I even went to trading standards and still lost. DNW were fine as they said it was their fault, they did mention the hole at the start of the auction apparently but I was'nt around for the start of it to hear and it was'nt in their online notices either so they did'nt mind at that point

And Now I rest my case the cooling off period won’t apply You might not get the right to a cooling-off period if: ·you buy certain goods and services which the law says aren't covered by a cooling-off period ·you're a business buyer ·you bid for something in a public auction. An online auction is not a public auction because you cannot attend it, so you should get the right to cancel when you buy something through an online auction you buy from a private individual and not a business ·you agree for a service to be fully performed straight away. This depends on a number of factors and could mean that you lose your right to cancel. More about your rights when you buy from a private individual More about agreeing for a service bought by distance sale to start straight away

They could, but you shouldn't have to give a reason if you are covered by a form of 'distance selling, cooling off period legislation' - I am just trying to establish whether that is the law nowadays?Head over to the saleroom and read ANY of their TOCs and I'll bet £100 that NONE mention returns

Correct Paul, as stated previously auction houses are immune to the rule. I've had 2 instances, 1 with DNW which i was refunded due to their error and another where i bought a bunch of fales which were just described as coins and i got trading standards involved and lost because they were apparently as described "coins" Grading won't get your money back nor will a change of mind asthey sell on BEHALF of a 3rd party, trust me, there's ni 14 day money back at auction houses unless they send a wrong coin or some other serious issue such as mine was from DNW ImGine if 30 or 40 people had a change of mind at auction, they would'nt be in business.

Double posr

Your link is for online purchases, does it also detail auction houses? No, just high street online purchases

Sorrybut nothing ofthis nature was mentioned when MHCOINS also stated that fact, try looking up histhread

Auction houses are exempt from the 14 day rule as i have had issues previously and was told this. Only under exceptional circumstances would they take anything back, grading would'nt be one of those as its subjective I sent back a Northumberland shilling to DNW becauseit had been previously holed and was skillfully repaired but was'nt stated i their catalogue but was inly mentioned on the dayof bidding

I also believe hammered coins can be graded and i'd say this was NEF, although everyone has their opinion eapecially if you're the buyer or the seller. I'm neither, just my opinion

I believe auctions are immune to this system of 14 day return

Beauty is inthe eye ofthe beholder Stewie and eventually its new buyer P.s the halfcrown above is milled