joey

G'day Rob Just looking at your wish list here.Did you see the 1729 copper proof halfpenny Peck 835 on London coins preview of their December auction.Would be a nice mate for the 834.

G'day Declan.Couple of shots of my 1915 farthings,one of the close TT and the other one.They are only aVF or so but I only paid AUD$4 each a couple of years ago.

A decent range on offer there across the board for all periods, but I would question some of the grading though. Do they have a reputation for overgrading or not? G,day Rob. Sorry I did not get back to you earlier,I have not looked in for a few days.Regarding the reputation for overgrading, I have not heard one way or the other.I will ask around.I have bought a few things through them but as Tom said they seem to put their reserves & estimates a little high in my opinion.They usually have quite a bit left for sale after the auction.

I saw you wanted Chas 1st shillings.I noticed a few in an auction here in Australia in Sydney on Fri 21st Oct.Whether they are cheap or not you will have to decide.Lots 7948,9 & 7950 Elizabeth 1,lots 7955,6 & 7960 James 1,Lots 7967,8,9,70,71 Chas 1.You should find them at http://www.statusint.com

Thanks Peckris & Colin for your input.I did look at Colin Cookes collection,but only the 1699's.There are 13 of those,1st & 2nd issue.After reading your replies I revisited the site and looked at all W 111 dates(69 examples not counting the patterns/medalets).I found 1 example of the S stop of GVLIELMVS the same as mine,but it was a 1700,CC 514,and a lot of the other lettering was different.Oh well thats another project. To try and get as many different variations as I can. Thanks again.

G'day All I bought a 1699, Wiliam 111, 2nd issue farthing the other day.I was going to put it in latest acquisitions but I have not received it as yet.I thought I would get a bit of a head start with its Peck number(thats how I try to arrange my farthings,as per Peck numbers).Peck seems to assign these W 111 farthings mainly by the reverse,ie no stop after date-681,unbarred A's in BRITANNIA-684 & unbarred last A in BRITANNIA-685.On this coin there is no stop after the date and one or both A's may be unbarred,or if it is just some junk on the coin.This I will find out when I have the coin in hand. The obverse has me a bit baffled. The position of the S and stop in GVLIELMVS is different from any I could find on the internet or on Pecks plate 11.Also the position of the stop after TERTIVS in relation to he bust seems to differ from most.Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks Colin & Joey. Both the single coin on the database and the one pointed out by Joey have the halved rose and castle mark. The castle is very clear, being in higher relief to the rose sticking out of the left side and is of a consistent size when compared to others with the same degree of clarity. This must suggest a single punch was used for the mark. Compare that with my halved rose mark and you will see that my coin has a very blundered mark which is typical of filled and recut dies. The castle appears to have a rose shape superimposed on the coin, i.e. the castle was punched to a shallower depth compared to the rose. This would be expected if the die had been hardened previously. Surely on a forum where the number of penny collectors is on an industrial scale there must be someone with an example. The silence is deafening. G'day Rob found this one down here on an Australian site.This link should get you there. The P&M penny was on page two of the english coin section.Hope it helps. http://www.intnumis.com.au/index.php/cPath/123_228/page_id/1

It's not doubling - but it does look like a recut A, the underlying A being a bit higher and rotated a few degrees anti-clockwise. The top of the original A seems to be protruding, and the right hand serif as you've noticed, and the bulge bottom left looks suspicious too. Recut letters are extremely common on the copper series, especially the farthings. Thanks for that.As you said, it does seem a common occurrence.Here is another 1845 I have which is similar but not quite as pronounced.

G'day all Going through some farthings and found this 1845 with what looks like something under the right leg of the last A in GRATIA.There appears a higher base and an extension at the top left.When I first noticed it I thought it was just a doubling of the A,but looking closer it is only on the right side.Any ideas.

Rob,Andrew Howitt has a P&M penny.You should find it with this link.If you have not already seen it. www.bottles.freeserve.co.uk/fsp.htm

interesting, i may try that for myself on 1 or 2 cheapie coins. i do like the lovely blue tone some of my victorian silver has, but i hate the extreme rainbow toning that the americans seem to like. Artificially assisted very often. E.g. petrol. The petrol,is that only used for silver or is it used on copper coins to the same effect.I have a couple of farthings I bought from the USA,graded by NGC,that are quite colourful.You have me thinking now.I did wonder how they toned to the colours.

And the reverse.

Hope that is more like you wanted azda

Here's the rev scan

Here is a shot of the obv.Photography is definitely not my thing.This is a scan.I dont think it is what you are after but is the best I can do.I will have to send the rev separately,the two together go over the 150K