Bernie

I noticed this Freeman 14 penny that is to be auctioned by Heritage on January 21st. The coin is slabbed and graded as MS67. I am almost certain that it was my coin, but now appears different, much brighter, some minor blemishes removed and some details such as minor scratches possibly polished away. https://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/world-coins/great-britain-victoria-penny-1860-ms67-red-and-brown-ngc-/a/3089-32804.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 I have attached pictures of the coin that I used to have in my collection, What do others think ? Bernie...

Yes maybe, Here is another example of coins that are definitely the same but appear to look different. Pictures can be very deceptive. Freeman 341 (16+P)

Rechecked, not a scratch but a fine die crack ! I concur, it is a different coin, but surely struck from the same pair of dies, probably struck within 10's of striking. Thank you all for your opinions. Happy New Year !

How about the horizontal minor scratch about 1mm above and to the right of the rose. I don't think this is an impression from the die.

Freeman 14 reverse

I second that ! I just hope that the coins that I have been waiting for to turn up do not come into their possession. Also this company do like to make rather large profits !

Looks like a Freeman 28 to me.

Yes, The very same Mal lewendon

In grades EF+ I would have thought that it must be about fifty times rarer than than the commoner Freeman 166. Finding a BU example would be challenging ! I remember these 1908 varieties when they were in circulation the 164 & 168 were of similar abundance in low grade, about three to one, funny that.

Yes, your coin is the said F/P. It is the same die pairing as my coin, Freeman obverse 6 with reverse G. I have attached a picture of my 6+G Halp coin. I also have a Halp coin of Obverse 7+G. I have heard rumours that other die pairs of Halp coins have been reported, including Reverse E !

The round "Dot" phenomena was investigated when it occurred on Australian bronze coins. It was concluded that the round dots were produced from dies that had rust pockets produced by water droplets.

This is who you are looking for: https://www.flickr.com/photos/124367871@N06/page1 Bernie...

The world appeared a much smaller place when pre decimal coins were in circulation. There were just as many collectors but only a fraction of the communication. Contact between these collectors was by postal letter, possibly telephone and coin magazines. A coin such as this coronet could circulate quite easily between millions of exchanges by non collectors without even being looked at. Even if it was noticed now and again as being different, it would still not have stopped it being spent, especially in the chewing gum machine.

Well ! here's a penny that I do not have !!!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-Great-Britain-One-Penny-Foreign-Coin/233374570067?hash=item3656355653:g:vZoAAOSwCRNdq7jG

I have pictures of this 1922 penny from a previous point in time, pictures attached

I have always mentioned to my wife about profits that I have made on selling duplicates. Our mortgage on our house has been paid off due to my interest in coins. I do not tend to tell her when I am buying coins, but do tell her of any profits that I make on selling them. She has her hundred pairs of shoes and anything else that she wants, so if she did complain about my spending, I probably wouldn't hear her !

And it appears to be a different obverse die to all others that I have seen, unless it is just an earlier die state. No die crack above head and the tail of "R" of "REG" level with the base of "E". Picture Attached of known die design.

Just don't tell the wife !

I am no expert on silver coins, but verdigris on this scale is surprising from a high grade silver. Perhaps the coins rested on a copper surface.

Is this inside knowledge ? can't find it on their auction website.

The 1952 penny may have failed to sell because most penny collectors collect currency coins. The 1952 penny could be classed as a pattern, so not issued for currency. Therefore the 1952 penny may not be considered as valuable as the 1933 & 1954. The coin, if sold for ~80K was probably double what the collector owner paid for it just a few years ago.

Don't panic Richard, you have had these thoughts before. The market for high grade pennies, especially high grade rarities is always on the up. Anyhow, what would you do with the money ? stash it in the bank at 1.5% interest. Selling would give you more time to watch the adverts on the telly !!