Bernie

The world appeared a much smaller place when pre decimal coins were in circulation. There were just as many collectors but only a fraction of the communication. Contact between these collectors was by postal letter, possibly telephone and coin magazines. A coin such as this coronet could circulate quite easily between millions of exchanges by non collectors without even being looked at. Even if it was noticed now and again as being different, it would still not have stopped it being spent, especially in the chewing gum machine.

Well ! here's a penny that I do not have !!!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-Great-Britain-One-Penny-Foreign-Coin/233374570067?hash=item3656355653:g:vZoAAOSwCRNdq7jG

I have pictures of this 1922 penny from a previous point in time, pictures attached

I have always mentioned to my wife about profits that I have made on selling duplicates. Our mortgage on our house has been paid off due to my interest in coins. I do not tend to tell her when I am buying coins, but do tell her of any profits that I make on selling them. She has her hundred pairs of shoes and anything else that she wants, so if she did complain about my spending, I probably wouldn't hear her !

And it appears to be a different obverse die to all others that I have seen, unless it is just an earlier die state. No die crack above head and the tail of "R" of "REG" level with the base of "E". Picture Attached of known die design.

Just don't tell the wife !

I am no expert on silver coins, but verdigris on this scale is surprising from a high grade silver. Perhaps the coins rested on a copper surface.

Is this inside knowledge ? can't find it on their auction website.

The 1952 penny may have failed to sell because most penny collectors collect currency coins. The 1952 penny could be classed as a pattern, so not issued for currency. Therefore the 1952 penny may not be considered as valuable as the 1933 & 1954. The coin, if sold for ~80K was probably double what the collector owner paid for it just a few years ago.

Don't panic Richard, you have had these thoughts before. The market for high grade pennies, especially high grade rarities is always on the up. Anyhow, what would you do with the money ? stash it in the bank at 1.5% interest. Selling would give you more time to watch the adverts on the telly !!

I agree, value 0.00

If my memory serves me correctly, on the earlier version of the Victorian Bronze penny, the picture of a reverse F penny was added at the back page of the book. The picture of the reverse F penny was on page 14 of the second edition.

Thank you Mike !

I thought that next years coin sets were usually advertised by the Royal Mint in December. No sign of them yet. Does anyone know when they will be available please ?

Take a look at this ! I wish I was rich ! It makes your mouth water. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rainbow-PCGS-MS-65-BU-1967-Great-Britain-1-2-Penny-Unc-Top-Grade-391/223267471542?hash=item33fbc740b6:g:ElAAAOSwEwhb7Orn

It could be an Ostrich ?

You've missed out Like.....like, like ,like, like Now the most common word in the English vocabulary, far more common than "and" or "the".

I strongly agree with the fact that pictures can distort the alignment of colons/lettering to teeth in borders !

It is difficult or even impossible to prove whether a die pairing was intentional or not. In my opinion coins such as BB/TB, TB/BB and 1862 2 & 3+G are not truly mules as they were possibly struck deliberately. A true mule in my mind is something like the 1966 Jersey obverse with British penny reverse.

Another obverse 7 with reverse G

Yes he bought a 1933 penny, specimen 7 in 1980 and sold it in ~1982

If L.C.WYON is on this penny, it is far from the position of a Freeman 15. All other indicators as Freeman 16

Fr24 4+F 1861E F+f OBVERSE Type 1 Three leaves in first row of laurel. Linear circle weak but continuous above legend “VICTORIA”. Type 2 Two leaves in first row of laurel, upper leaf missing or very weak. Linear circle mostly absent above legend “VICTORIA”. REVERSE Type 1 Last numeral “1” in date noticeably spaced wide from “6”, slightly low and tilting clockwise approximately 15 degree’s. Linear circle in exergue continuous. Small trace of extra tail, with tip cut off, on date numeral “6” one noted with die crack from tooth between “8” and “6” of date, running vertical towards breastplate. Type 2 Last numeral “1” in date spaced slightly wide, very low and tilting approximately 20 degree’s Clockwise, almost in contact with linear circle. Trace of extra tail to date numeral “6”

Two different die pairs noted, Fr32 6+F 1861M J+f OBVERSE Type 1 Linear circle well defined and spaced close to legend “VICTORIA” Second leg of “V” in “VICTORIA” touching linear circle. Some flan examples found concave Type 2 Linear circle weak in places, legend “VICTORIA” not too close to linear circle. REVERSE Type 1 Date numerals inline, last numeral “1” very slightly wide and tilting clockwise by 5 degree’s. Linear circle below exergual line weak then missing after last date numeral. one noted with die crack on right of first "N" in "PENNY" to toothed border. Some flan examples found convex. Type 2 Last date numeral “1” spaced wide, slightly low and tilting by approximately 5 degree’s. Linear circle below exergual line mostly intact, except 3mm. Missing left of date, near exergual line.

Many examples of one of the two known die pairings of F32 occur with flans that become slightly concave/convex after striking. This is probably the reason that this die design was not adopted again. This is the cause of more wear to the centre of the reverse.