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It's Mission Impossible. Define which coins there should be spaces for - every Peck, Freeman, Satin, and Gouby variety? All date spacings? Unbarred H's? Doubled letters in the legend? Missing serifs? Recut letters or numerals? 2's and 3's at varying angles? Every instance of ultra-rare die number even if you couldn't possibly get them? Define your own complete series, and put them in a blank album using Coindex flips where you can print or write the details on a slip of coloured card that slots into the upper flip. The only bespoke albums are - for example - the Whitman series, but they only contain the major varieties. Or I use Lighthouse trays and Qudrum capsules, but there are similar products from other manufacturers (see the shop on this website). The beauty of these systems is that you can move coins around to only create spaces that you actually hope to fill. Labelling of my coins is ongoing so not all in this photo have labels.

As everyone has said, both coins are around F and no better (an EF description is outrageous). According to VR Court's survey, around 1 in 40 1926 pennies are ME so, with a (low) mintage of 4.4M only circa 100,000 MEs were produced. Typically ME's of the grade shown sell for £30-£90. VF, EF and UNC grades seem to command from a few hundred up to £2-3K.

I concur with this advice. 10% is good... it's hard to pay less than 12.5% around here.

Since 1900 the value of currency has decreased by a factor of more than 100 so, give it a few more years and we can safely devalue our currency by 100 and rename the current £1 as a penny. £100 can then be renamed one pound. If it does't happen by decree, it will inevitably happen in practice as anything less than £1 will be useless and coins of £100 will be necessary for purchasing a loaf of bread or a pint (litre or more likely, liter (sic)) of milk. Unless, as the government wishes (perfect for the big brother state), cash is phased out completely in the meantime!

Many of the 1876H pennies have the bar in the H damaged or even missing. The date is either recut or double struck. Here's an example of mine, showing a smiler effect on the '1' and with the bar on the H missing:

True, the overhang from the Bole collection is going to influence the market for a while yet. Interesting idea, but if I was happy with smaller coins I would probably stick with pennies as these go back even further. I just like the look and feel of the larger currency. A strange notion - that the penny is a "smaller coin" ! I was referring to the pre 1797 and hammered pennies as smaller coins. Collecting these would make sense but they just don't 'do it' for me.

As regulars will know, I've been concentrating on my penny collection for some time and would expect this always to be my main focus of attention. In addition, I do have a reasonable collection of other denominations which I've accumulated over the years. These have tended to take a back seat to the pennies though. I'm toying with the idea of selecting another denomination, to provide a second focus to the collection. I admit to being a series collector and feel happier assembling date runs (sorry Rob). The most obvious choice would be half pennies, as I have several thousand bagged away, but I want to go for something completely different and feel that silver would provide this. For some reason (maybe my need of reading glasses) I do prefer larger coins. I also want something which allows me to extend the collection back through the multiple reigns of the hammered era. The most obvious choices would be crowns or half crowns. For the dates it covers, ESC lists around 400 coins of each denomination so there is a roughly equal scope for the collection of either. Prior to the Commonwealth era, half crowns are perhaps more numerous but available examples of such coins would be extremely rare anyway. The costs also appear to be similar with crowns perhaps slightly more expensive but with significant rarities of both denominations fetching equally high prices. My starting point for either is much the same. I have good examples of the 'easier' 20th century coins and a smattering of earlier coins. So finally I need to make a decision. I do like the feel of crowns and the eye appeal of large coins but I'm open to suggestion. Any thoughts appreciated.

Anyone pick up anything in the sale today? I was interested in two lots but decided against one of them after closer inspection. I did get the VIP 1935 proof penny though , for which I found it very difficult to get comparative pricing. Freeman has it as R18.

True, the overhang from the Bole collection is going to influence the market for a while yet. Interesting idea, but if I was happy with smaller coins I would probably stick with pennies as these go back even further. I just like the look and feel of the larger currency. So does my wife Is she out a lot?

True, the overhang from the Bole collection is going to influence the market for a while yet. Interesting idea, but if I was happy with smaller coins I would probably stick with pennies as these go back even further. I just like the look and feel of the larger currency.

Thank you all for your input, it's much appreciated! I hadn't really thought too much about the "regular denomination" angle. I can certainly see that collecting coins designed for circulation has the edge over collecting those just produced for the purpose, so that has to be a factor. I do very much like the design of the 19C crowns though. Hmmm... think I'll have another look through the coins I already have, go through a few auction catalogues and price lists and try to come to a conclusion. I'm not going to rush though, if only for the sake of my wallet! And John, whatever I go for, I'll certainly check out member's sites

You should be ok then. I think that the original Shorthold Tenancy automatically becomes a Periodic Tenancy if you didn't actually renew it. You will need to check this though. If so, I would personally take the opportunity to find new tenants, get an agent and do everything properly in future. It's different if you're around to look after things but being abroad it's just not worth the risk.

Agree it's getting harder and harder to upgrade bronze on my limited budget, main reason I've diversified into finding higher grade foreign "pennies" You can't agree with him! That's tantamount to blaming me for single handedly pushing up the prices of all bronze pennies.

Even more shocking is some poor fool actually bid £3 for it. With p&p that's £4.50! Wonder if he'd like to buy some of my scrap at that price?

You don't mention the type of tenancy agreement you have. As I say, if it's a Shorthold tenancy you can get the property back in 13 weeks. If you arranged it privately and didn't get a proper tenancy agreement in place it could take you an awful lot longer. The law in such cases very much favours the tenant over the landlord.

Hi Chris, I always use a management company who let on a standard 6 month shorthold assured tenancy. In my experience the only thing to do with a 'bad' tenant (i.e. one who treats the place badly or, more usually, doesn't pay) is to go straight for eviction. The legal procedure takes 13 weeks and sometimes you just have to swallow the loss of rent. Most agents will be familiar with the process and usually don't charge because they were responsible for finding the bad tenant in the first place and should have done the checks! This doesn't help with the loss of rent, of course. Usually you have to take the hit and move on. Just get the 13 week period underway asap to avoid any more loss.

Yes But a £50 coin in 1969 is now £80 A £5 coin in 1969 is now £280. Shows you could and can still buy Turkeys (undated 20p's) If you want to buy inflation proof coins know your market on true rarities. Coins to avoid...H & KN,ME 1d's...46 & 49 3d's....52 6d's...32 2/-....25 & 30 2/6 all these in NVF or less are so common as they were plucked out of circulation in the 60's and hoarded. Here's the ultimate joke : (from the 1970s Coins & Medals Annual) 1932 penny BU ....................... £50 1797 twopence BU ................. £35 And this from the days when the average weekly wage was about £25. Two weeks work to get a BU 1932 penny?? I don't think so! Yes But a £50 coin in 1969 is now £80 A £5 coin in 1969 is now £280. Shows you could and can still buy Turkeys (undated 20p's) If you want to buy inflation proof coins know your market on true rarities. Coins to avoid...H & KN,ME 1d's...46 & 49 3d's....52 6d's...32 2/-....25 & 30 2/6 all these in NVF or less are so common as they were plucked out of circulation in the 60's and hoarded. I don't agree that the H, KN & ME pennies in TOP grade will not be inflation proof. But then I might be biassed I think I agree with you (if I've read your double negative correctly ) - however Peter was speaking of examples in NVF or less, which is a whole different bouilloire des poissons. I agree that NVF would be an entirely different jeu de balle. I didn't fail to notice the double negative but hoped that no one else wouldn't see it.

Yes But a £50 coin in 1969 is now £80 A £5 coin in 1969 is now £280. Shows you could and can still buy Turkeys (undated 20p's) If you want to buy inflation proof coins know your market on true rarities. Coins to avoid...H & KN,ME 1d's...46 & 49 3d's....52 6d's...32 2/-....25 & 30 2/6 all these in NVF or less are so common as they were plucked out of circulation in the 60's and hoarded. I don't agree that the H, KN & ME pennies in TOP grade will not be inflation proof. But then I might be biassed

Dave, I'm interested in any pennies which would add to my collection. I know you have a few good examples... Hi I just know I am going to mess up with this post. I collect shillings very new to it. The reason I joined the forum.I saw your post re pennies I have 5 x 1944 all are part of a pail of coins I bought for the shillings, they are dirty but I would venture they are E F or very very near that. I would not try to clean as I have no idea what I am doing. Just thought I would post after seeing your interest. I'm only interested in 20th century pennies, any rarities there? Welcome to the forum. Which dates/varieties and in what kind of condition are you looking for?

Did I miss something? I had this 1860 penny down as 4 + D, which didn't interest me. Judging by the sale price I must have missed something, surely? Any ideas?

Rob, could you confirm the Spink sale number please? Ocassionally the catalogues appear on eBay. There are a few listed at the moment, but none for 1986.

You're a star Rob!! So it's a Norweb penny... my first (to my knowledge). I'll update the note on my website. Thank you!

Go on... just steal them from Chard's Tax Free Gold website :ph34r: Check out this link before you do though

There appears to be a missing colon after 'F:D' as far as I can see? You could be right. I must admit that I did notice the blocked die but as I don't personally collect them I hadn't really considered it. To me, it's certainly not worth such a premium.

That's quite a nice example of the O'NE variety. I would agree with Gary, in the £150-£200 range.