Accumulator

1) B.P. are the initials of the designer of the famous George and Dragon reverse - Benedetto Pistrucci. 2) Perhaps gF to aVF. 3) Spink catalogue for Half Sovereign without BP in exergue (S.3881A) has prices £100, £125, £395, £2150 for F, VF, EF and UNC respectively. Nick, I think you'll find those prices are for the 1897 without BP. 2011 Spink doesn't list the 1900 without the initials, hence it may be an interesting find but need Marsh to confirm.

Scott, you remind me of the son of a person I met from London about 20-25 years ago. When we first met, his immediate reply was "Cor, you dun ahf talk funny mite" - an unlikely arrangement of letters and words. ..Yes, well..... Unlike my friend's son, is there any danger of using your mother tongue in a written form that I can recognise? It's worse than Azda's teutonic iPhone. Thanks in advance. I had to laugh. I lost count after around thirty grammatical or spelling errors in that post. Sorry Scott!

That's an S for Sydney and I also notice there's no BP in the exergue. I only have Marsh for sovereigns, not half-sovereigns so can't look it up but sure that most have the BP? S is certainly more sought after and more valuable, but only really in a better grade.

It would be easier for you to answer the question yourself, using a magnifying glass on the actual coins and by comparing with the pic I previously posted than it is for us relying on a screen shot. However, as far as I can see, you don't have one there.

It doesn't appear on their population report as far as I can see? I wasn't aware that an F192A had been graded by anyone.

I agree. I was just trying to find a pic I had of the specimen 1922 with reverse of 1927, but with the ME obverse, to see if this was also identical to your X2 reverse. Unfortunately I don't seem to have it which may be because I promised to delete it after viewing!

Interesting! It certainly looks like a 192A. Do you know which Grading Service and what grade they gave it?

My 1918KN and like Peck's 1930 halfcrown, nice but not in top grade David Similar grade to mine. I must think about dealing with the staining which masks a reasonable coin.

Posting that pic has reminded me I was planning to bathe it olive oil!

You don't want this one, the lustre is suspect. I remember that coin (from Manchester?) and did wonder about the lustre. The 1933 and 1954 are both on my bucket list, together with the 1920 3+B! Otherwise, I have to do with this (apologies for those that have seen it before). Particularly as it only cost me a penny!

About £50, but you might like to post a photo so we can confirm what you have.

The lower one of the two coins in this photo is an 'open 3'. They represent roughly 1 in every 500 1903 pennies.

the guy im buying them off is a truck driver that renovates old fruit machines in his spare time he says he knows nothing about coins so puts the coins he finds in a pile As Peter says, nothing of value as far as one can see given the relatively poor grade of the photographed coins. If the 75kg coins are genuinely unchecked fruit machine stock then you may be lucky. I found several penny rarities by going through thousands and thousands of such coins but you have many hours of searching ahead of you. You'll be looking for such things as the 1903 'open 3', 1909 '2+E', 1911 Gouby X etc., all worth upwards of £50 even in a lowly fine condition.

This listing on eBay got me thinking. Why is there such a following for so-called 'toned' bronze coins in the US (and Canada). Is there really any evidence whatsoever that this sort of toning can occur naturally in bronze? Personally I'm certain that it's an entirely chemically/heat induced phenomenon and, rather than a coin taking 'over 100 years', it's the result of a few minutes work by a hopeful seller hoping to rip-off an unsuspecting buyer. I don't recall seeing a bronze statue exhibit rainbow hues!

Dave, the rare 1* + C is differentiated by the OBVERSE but you initially posted pics of the REVERSE. On the OBVERSE you're looking for the colon ( after BRITT to line up with a border tooth. On the other varieties it aligns with a gap between teeth.

Ideal for 99th birthday Are you serious?

..... just about anything. Usually found in elbow-patched corduroy jackets discussing Human Rights or global warming. I presume you're referring to the Whigs, not the Liberal Democrats?

It's only the proof 1937 1+B proof that I've found difficult. The differences in the two 1905 varieties are somewhat subtle, but whatever lights your fire Without help you could spend some time playing spot the difference! Here are my two:

I obviously need to look harder for the 1937 1+B proof, unless you'd like to part with one for a fee?

I think the rare 20thC pennies have already caught on. A 1933 or 1954 would certainly be 40k+ and may reach 6 figures on a good day. The 1922 rev 1927 or 1920 3+B would be several k. Higher grade examples of 1908 1*+C, 1926 ME, 1911 Gouby X, 1903 open 3, 1909 2 +E, would probably all make 1k+ Also, 1913 2 +A and 1937 1 + B proof won't be cheap (if the seller knows what they have)! While on the subject, I've lost count of the number of UNC 1913's I've bought or searched looking for the elusive 1 + B combination (only rarity R, according to Freeman) so if anyone has one to sell (UNC only, sorry) please let me know?

You read it here Accumulator Sounds like an offer to buy, to me Actually, I think the 1922 proof would be a 10k+ coin. If I owned both I might accept your kind offer to part with one for 20k

I think you did mention your interest and I appreciate your kind offer to put a roof over it's head Are you referring to the (unique, I believe) 1922 rev 1927 specimen with the ME obverse? If that's the coin, I think I've seen pics prior to slabbing.

Thank you. Have not posted for a few months but still find time to lurk (and pick up the odd coin) occasionally!

He only sells through ebay 400, and with a coin like that you gotta think that he's a tight bar steward and not setting up a website. Wonder what his ebay fees are like lol Check out all the other listings he has. I've not bought from him, but noticed the listings before and always assumed it was a main London Dealer (even Spink or Mark Rasmussen) anonymously selling on ebay?

Hi Declan, Is 2 + C* with the foot of the first 4 to a tooth? If so, V R Court has them as 1 in 5 of all pennies searched for that date. I've found them less common than this though.