Hussulo

Can anyone help with what this coin might be? I think it may be a cast/forgery, but I was wondering of what type? I took it down to my local jeweller and he tested it and said its at least 22k on his tester, could be higher but his tester doesn't go any higher. Any help would be grateful. Thanks, Hus

It is a brave move, I wish you the best of luck. I think most dealers I've seen are already retired and have a pension therefore any money make from the sale of coins is an added bonus. To do it full time with no other income is a risky move but sometimes it does work, and I hope it does for the both of you.

I've just dropped the price of the brockage penny to £280 and the 1817 off centre shilling to £190. Also many more listings added by other sellers, please have a browse.

I still have some error coins consigned on Coins4u.net I have dropped the asking price on the brockage penny and off-centre shilling. I will also be adding some more soon. You can see them here: http://www.coins4u.net/catalog.asp?catid=412 Please also check out the many other numismatic items for sale by our members: http://www.coins4u.net/index.asp Thanks, Hus

Will do, thanks Chris.

You're link doesn't seem to be working Bob?

Exactly. It's not a major error like a brockage or an off-centre, but as struck through errors go it is quite noticeable so more desirable. It definitely has a premium over the same grade "standard" coin. The value would depend on how many people wanted it on the day, etc... So hard to say.

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I was busy typing before you posted the second picture. After looking at the second picture I am pretty certain that is what it is.

Hard to tell for certain, but it does look like a "struck through error". As your friend said occasionally debris falls in between the die and a planchet (soon to be coin) and you are left with an impression. I have also seen Russian ones that have been struck after a cleaning cloth has fell onto them.

I recently took new pictures of my Victoria Gothic florin brockage, so I decided to try my hand at SpaceMonkey's excellent templates for Photoshop (member on another forum). What do you think?

http://coinarchaeology.blogspot.com/2009/0...uities-and.html

Well not as much as predicted: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=270338086175 Still $1530, not bad price for a slab.

buy the coin and not the slab? Well in this case: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=270338086175 They are bidding on the slab and not the coin! I think the coin itself is worth about $150-$200, but the NGC black slabs are actively sought after by slab "generation" collectors. It will be interesting to see what it finally sells for.

Chris have you heard of any of this? Is it true? Is it over dramaticised?

http://www.fr-online.de/frankfurt_und_hess...n-Kaempfer.html According to the article under (new?) German law any coin or stamp of 100 years old is supposed to have provenance going back to when it was acquired. If not police can search the home and confiscate complete collections. and it is also reported that: Due to the above law by the German Govt. regarding antiquities , Ebay Germany cancelled most or all auctions by German sellers involving ancient coins. This apparently happened over this past weekend.

The new 20p coins are minted using an alloy of 84% coper and 16% nickel. The older ones where 75% copper, 25% nickel. Looking at the picture my guess would be that the coin you have has missed a plating process perhaps it missed some stage that normally makes the coin appear more silver. Hus

Looks great James. Obviously a lot of work has gone into it and it really shows. P.s. thanks for the link. I'll add a link to it on CoinsGB Regards, Hus

Yes I am pleased with the new picture. I seem to be getting better at taking pictures. I guess the old saying, practise makes perfect... I'm afraid it is one of the errors I plan on keeping. I am going to be selling some errors on Coins4u.net but this is my personal favourite and I really don't want to have to let it go. I'm finding it hard to let the others go but I am going to hang on to the Florin. I have posted some of the others on another thread as "Purchase Now". There is a very nice brockage penny for sale.

I have consigned some my error coins for sale to my father in law to list on Coins4u.net There should be some listed to meet most budgets. It has been a hard decision to let them go but needs must and my collecting interest are changing. You can see them here: http://www.coins4u.net/catalog.asp?catid=412 There are now over 100 coins listed on Coins4u.net with a total value in the tens of thousands of pounds. http://www.coins4u.net/index.asp Many new additions to the British gold section. I would like to extend my thanks to everyone who has listed, became a member or purchased on our site. Hus

I will be consigning my error coins for sale to my father in law to list on Coins4u.net There should be some listed to meet most budgets. Some of which can be seen here: http://www.coinsgb.com/Error_Coins/Error_coins.html It has been a hard decision to let them go but needs must and my collecting interest are changing. I'll post a link once he has listed them for sale. On a separate note. I have been contacting a few coin dealers to let them know about Coins4u.net and I am pleased to announce that Mr R.Ingram is also going to be listing some coins for sale soon. I would like to extend my thanks to everyone who has listed, became a member or purchased on our site. It will take time but the site is growing steadily. Many thanks, Hus

Probably not many would advocate dipping, but how many apart from the example give would advocate "buffing". I'm not saying I'd advocate either, but dipping in my mind would be less invasive than 'buffing'. However if a coin is over dipped then it will loose its lustre and look cleaned. As for the third party graders and dipped coins, you just need to look at the amount of Blast white Morgans etc. in holders to realise that its quite a common occurrence especially in the US. "A coin is not necessarily ungradable just because it is not totally original. In some cases, in fact, altering a coin may actually improve its grade. One example of this would be dipping a coin that has splotchy, mottled, or dull toning and thereby revealing a blazing white gem." Taken from Detecting Doctored Coins, Part 2 by PCGS Maybe there are several coins with hairlines from attempts. It be interesting to hear from anyone that has tried it. Please understand I am not having a go at MR. Davies, in fact I truly do respect his wealth of Numismatic knowledge, and I'm not saying it doesn't work if done properly as I have never tried it. Personally I just think that if you did employ this method there might be some evidence of cleaning under magnification. Cleaning still goes on today. I know someone that uses a rubber to rub off the toning on a coin, or Vaseline to clean the toning off. In both cases he says the cleaned coin is "undetectable". I would disagree, I have never tried it, but the coin I saw that had been cleaned using Vaseline, looked a funny copper colour and not very natural. I agree with your last statement of not to bother doing it. I think most that do engaged in such activities are most likely doing so for fraudulent means. Hus

My view is following this "buffing" advice even with a "clean piled cloth" will leave hairlines and the coin will look cleaned. Especially if the details of the coin are viewed under magnification. The lustre of a coin if it is still hidden under some toning can occasionally be seen after dipping the coin in a specific coin dip, but even a coin with lustre now is going to tone again in the future (unless you keep it in some kind of 100% air tight container never to see the light of day again). I would consider dipping to be less intrusive to "buffing" not that I'd recommend either. I the past a lot of coins have been cleaned and many have retoned over the cleaning. I think nowadays collectors are much more against cleaning coins then they were perhaps in the 80's and perhaps the advice given today by Mr. Davies might be different today. All that being said I have never tried "buffing" nor have I ever seen anyone "buff" a coin and if it can be done without leaving any form of evidence I would stand corrected.

Very neat. No4 is my favourite too. It is like the system they use on Heritage. How do you add these type of graphic functions to your pictures?

It has been inscribed around the edge at a later date "Lanarkshire rifle volunteers PTE. J.W. Robertson Q Coy 1st. LRV. 1898" . Unfortunately I can't find any information on PTE. J.W. Robertson.