Hussulo

There are a few "TANKS" on this forum. It's a great place to get answers and gain knowledge. I think a few of the regular, old school members have been busy (holidays etc.). I have always fancied metal detecting, but I have never got round to it. I did recently discover that there is a club not too far from where I live, so I might give them a phone and see if I can join. Even if I don't find anything I'm sure it will be good fun trying. Here's a good site for people interested in metal detecting: http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/

I was wrong, you're not brilliant at all... you are simply INCREDIBLE TO SAY AT LEAST! U gave me so much information on those coins, I actually wasn't even hopinig to get any info on that George III coin, I thought, It's in too bad state to say anything about it, but you did! I was excited as a child! I love to know the background of my coins, so all your links were very helpful as well!Thnx a million once again! Love this forum!!! You're welcome. Any time.

I don't know Chris, xmoviexmasterx and AdultMaster2k6 kinda sound like coin collectors to me. Having said that the rest could be genuine, who knows?

Hi Holger, Just click on Chris' name above his picture and then send message.

Oh well, I though that Babel Fish was well off. To me "I desire you all good from the ore mountains!" sounded like something out of Lord Of The Rings.

Your top coin is a Victoria 4 pence. Look at the link below for details: http://www.coinsgb.com/Victoria/92-SilverFourpence.html Again in this condition it probably isn't worth any more than its silver value. Your second coin is a Victoria 6 pence: http://www.coinsgb.com/Victoria/93-Sixpence.html It has been made into a love token. A lot of Victorians used to etch the initials of their loved ones onto a side of a coin and it has had a hole punched into it to be worn as a necklace and a memento. There are some collectors that collect these but, it is damaged (hole) and I don't think it will be worth more than its silver value. P.S. These coins would definitely not be worth getting slabbed! I hope I have been of some help. Regards, Hus

Lets start with the hardest one first. I think your showing the coin upside down. I also think at that diameter it may be a George III penny. This is the way it should be: I think the P you see is actually a D and then there is a D and you were right about the R and E which should be followed by a X. I have highlighted these in the picture below. I have also highlighted a circle, which looks to be some damage as if someone punched something on the other side. In blue I have lined up the letters in relation to the eyes and nose which looks to be in line with a George III penny 1806 to 1808. Look at the second coin in my site below: http://www.coinsgb.com/George_III/6-Penny.html The bad news is in that condition I don't think it would be worth anything. When it comes to coin collecting and values condition and rarity are the main factors that determine a coins value. It's all about being desirable, the nicer it looks and the less of them there are, the more people will want one. The age of a coin is less relevant. You can pick up a Roman coin for a couple of pounds, where as a modern coin in top condition might cost more.

After using Babel Fish German to English translation this is what I got: "I desire you all good from the ore mountains!"

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Good luck Chris and Red! it sounds like a very worthwhile book and one which I will definitely add to my collection. All the best, Hus

There is a UK company recently established. Link below: http://www.cgs-uk.biz/home There are also companies in the US called PCGS and NGC (as well as others, but they are regarded to be the best in the US). To be honest I wouldn't really bother getting your coins graded unless they are valuable, even then its not really necessary. My most expensive coin an 1823 £2 and isn't slabbed. I do have a few slabbed (graded) coins, but that's how I bought them and a lot of foreign gold coins (especially if purchased from the US) are already slabbed. It cost money to get coins slabbed and if the coin isn't worth much, then really it isn't financially viable. If you get them slabbed it does offer some protection, like a hard plastic case, and a degree of guarantee as the said coin should be genuine (don't always listen to the variety stated on the slab, and sometimes they miss varieties). Alternatively if your worried about protection and damage to a coin, you can always buy plastic coin holders, capsules and slabbs and put the coins in yourself. If you wanted to find out grades of particular coins, you could post pictures here and someone will probably be able to tell you their grades (as long as the pictures clear) or alternatively you could take them to a local coin dealer, and if he's friendly and helpful enough he should be able to tell you their grades. Regards, Hus

I wouldn't bother, cleaning them, especially if the are milled and not hammered. Most non collectors or new collectors think if a coin is shiny its worth more. The truth is, all coins tone in time and most collectors like toned coins. There are some coins which still retain their original colour, and that are in mint state, and that are worth more. If you try and clean a coin to make it look uncirculated or original, it won't work. An experienced collectors can tell a mile off a coin has been cleaned or if it retains it own colour and lustre. Cleaning a coin can seriously devalue it (especially if done in correctly) and 9 times out of 10 there is no need to clean them anyway.

There is a die crack at the top part of 6 o'clock, not below the leaf. So I had two quotes to its value. 1st one $500 the second one after taking better pictures (different Canadian collector) between $700-$1200 USD retail. Needless to say my father in law is very pleased.

No die crack though N (please note image is upside down). Reverse: No die crack at 3 o'clock

No die crack through D? Small sign of a die crack thorough the centre of R.

No die crack or possibly a very faint one starting between the two teeth.

It turns out that it is a DP#1, and possibly an early state one as the die cracks aren't all there? Below is a list of were the die cracks should be and pictures of the coin. As you can see some cracks are vissable, where as some aren't.

Next two were under different lighting there isn't any actual difference in colour.

I usually only collect milled but I think my oldest coin is a Celtic O geometric quarter stater. It's quite a bad scan. It comes under early uninscribed coinage and probably dates to just after 70 B.C.

I received a couple of 1/3 Farthings I purchased from Mr. R.Ingram today. 1827 PCGS MS64 and 1878 Unc. I've got my eye on a nice 1884 and then I'll only have 1844 left to buy! I'll upload the pictures soon when I get time.

I have been trying to aomplete 1/3 farthings set in as high a grade I can. So far I have: 1827 – PCGS MS64 on hold 1835 - PCGS MS62 BN 1844 - Missing 1866 - PCGS MS63 RB 1868 - PCGS MS63 RB 1876 – Unc? Not received yet, pictures aren't great so will need to see in hand. 1878 - Unc 1881 - NGC MS64 RB 1884 - Missing 1885 - PCGS MS64 RB 1902 - PCGS MS64 RD 1913 - PCGS MS65 RD Then I'm hoping to move on to 1/4 and 1/2 farthings. Plus some varieties and hopefully pick up a proof or two. Does anybody else here collect fractional farthings?

I received this today. 1876 third farthing. Sellers Pics (must of been a scanner): My Pics (I should have shot it before I put it in a 2x2 as you can see light reflections):

I can imagine! Would love to see pics of them when you do manage to complete it.

A proof come up for sale at Heritage once and wish I had bid on it now, but back then I wasn't really focusing on 1/3 farthings. Having said that even now I would like to finish my standards first before venturing into the proofs.

I think Rob more or less covered the original question. It would be a great feat to have a site or book with many of the varieties, but practicaly very hard. There are few publications especially on bronze coinage like "The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain" by Michael J. Freeman, and Michael Gouby's "The Bronze Penny", which spring to mind. I think many variety collectors only stick to one type of coin, metal or one denomination. I don't collect varieties, but I do now that 1846 1/2 crown 8 struck over 6 is quite rare. Chris's Collectors Coins GB 2008 lists it as £500 in fine. Do you have any pictures you could share? Regards, Hus