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Is this hammered from dies (some of the letters look really sharp), or is this another cast? Its a hammered coin and for once a genuine one

And a Danish 2 skilling of Christian III. Minted in Ribe 1536 just after the civil war was ended and the reformation completed. Its slightly smaller than a contemporary British groat.

Nice Chinese HuoQuan 'cake' coin with remains of the casting sprue. Weights 12 gr. which is about four times a normal coin. These were probably produced at the end or after the fall of Wang Mang's regime 9-23 AD.

Either there's some determined shilling going on (suspicious bidding pattern, yes?), or else someone desperately wants it for the date. But I agree, it's a weird one. You wouldn't raise that for a regular EF halfpenny of that series, so your guess is as good as mine. Richard is not a shiller, so we can put that to bed. Is it lost on you that the date does not exist and does not turn up among forgeries? The price is high because it is contemporary, rare and in good condition for a series that is regularly very poorly produced. No mystery just simple supply and demand. As you see John, that's what I said!! But on that basis, a unique date of a "To Hanover" gaming token or faked spade guinea, should command a similar value. All we're saying is that it's a weirdly high price - albeit a unique date - for what is, at the end of the day, a forgery. Though I collect George III counterfeits I know next to nothing about the copper series. However some of those were produced in America, and if that's the case the price will probably be much higher than an English counterfeit.

Semirechie (Turkestan) Cash coin of ruler Wahshutawa, 8th century.

Shilling pages are now updated Total is now 124 different obverses and 136 reverses.

My first guess was; the obverse of a regular half penny joined with a cast florin reverse However the half penny is too small. So it must be a colonial coin - but which?

Triskele and Swastika on a Danish coin from the time of Erik Menved (1286-1319)

Thanks - of course; its a penny with the rim cut off It does seem like there's something hiding under the bronze at the Irish shield. However the rim appears silvered here and there and there's some silvering below the bust on obverse. Perhaps it was made for conjuring, for fun or some kind of jewelry training?

Thanks - I've just ordered a copy.

Thanks for the thought! However I don't really collect later counterfeits than George IV/William IV so perhaps if you could find an Edward VII specialist he'll have better use for it.

As you may have seen I'm doing a similar study on the counterfeit George III silver coins. I feel its easier on the eye to have a neutral background. Also I prefer not to cut the details out as there's a risk of removing part of the design.

Yes - clearly a separate die variation. And a strange one too. A double letter like the Q or the double dot in right side of garter is easily explained as an attempt to strengthen weakly engraved parts of the design. But to place a dot inside the O's seems out of place - More like a secret mark or someone who didn't knew what he was doing

Just received this not so nice copy - cost me £18+shipping which is 2 or 3 times normal price for a fair/fine example so someone else knew about it... Beside the dots in the O's the die also has a double dot between Y and PENSE ...and talking about 1820 shillings - this may be of interest to you Debbie

Nice one Not sure - but it looks like cast and plated - I got a similar sheffield plated BoE dollar, very professionally done unlike most cast counterfeits.

Would especially be interested in pictures/scans of the Irish 6/- and BoE Dollars. Lost this a few days ago - wonder if the winner knew he was buying a counterfeit...not very clear in description. Are you starting a collection Chris? I have lots of duplicates for trade!!

Anyone who has a copy of R. Dalton: The silver token coinage 1811-1812 - for sale?

These are described in an earlier thread They come in both low and high grade copies however all seems to have the reverse turned 180 degrees.

Toy coin perhaps? http://www.tokensociety.org.uk/topics/toycoins.shtml

I still would opt for a subforum for counterfeits. With threads for each type of coin. That will make it much easier to find old threads and add new info to earlier ones. Thinking fx of the sceatta coinage - it would be nice to have a place where one could see all the Museumreproduction coins etc. Some time ago I bought 3 modern counterfeits of 1898, 1935 and 1937 crowns from a German seller. They all looks cast have milled edge are magnetic and underweight so no big problem. Perhaps they were made to fool tourists(?)

Sound like someone selling items he first have to buy elsewhere... Be sure to open your paypal case in time

The double Q is fairly common and seems to be a matrix variation hence will be found on several dies. The variation with the added dots is likely from an individual die - I've not seen it in hand but I think there has been one or two on ebay over the last year.

If you get around to make scans of them - please mail them to: seuk@mail.dk

Found this title in the reading list of 'A History of Modern English coinage' by James Mackay. Could be a good place to start: H.W.A. Linecar: British coin designs and designers (G. Bell, 1977)

I can use scans of any of the silver counterfeits including Irish bank tokens - preferable in 1200dpi but 600dpi will do. http://pds.lib.harvard.edu/pds/view/4787497 This case offers an interesting view into one small coin operation of 1823. It mentions that the convict had 4104 sixpences ready for distribution which seems to suggest that they were either for selling off in quantities or that William Astbury were making the counterfeits on behalf someone else? Unfortunately there's no information on the police work behind the case so we can't see if they tried to find out who made/supplied the dies etc. if not William himself. ...Some were halfcrown dies dated 1819 so perhaps all his counterfeits were George III? Seems he was transported not hanged: http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/astbury/william/85174