DaveG38

I think the clue to the main reason for this lies in the total number of episodes of the whole series, which was 17. I'm not sure that any other series has had such an odd number before finishing. My understanding is that the filming was incredibly expensive - it did use some cutting edge techniques for its time - and Lew Grade (I think it was) was getting nervous about the spiralling costs. Patrick McGoohan, whose series it essentially was, was told to wrap it up PDQ. Hence the last two episodes seem slightly disconnected from the rest. It is also likely that these two were rather cobbled up in a hurry, with little real build up to them, and were likely hastily scripted around PMG's own, not completely clear, vision of how the whole thing should end. I seem to recall that there was originally envisaged that there would be 24 episodes made, which means 7 are 'missing.' To the best of my knowledge, there are at least 2 for which scripts, or at least story outlines, were produced, but were rejected at the time by PMG. Whether these would have added to our understanding, I'm not sure, since the whole series was, I think, intended to leave the viewer guessing, even though some of the explanations were subtly there. For instance, in the final few seconds of the final episode, when the butler stands at the door of the prisoner's house, the door opens automatically, as doors did in the village, suggesting quite clearly, that for all the appearence of his escape, he was really still trapped. My view is that if anybody tries to discern explanations for everything that went on, they will drive themselves crazy because the explanations just aren't there, deliberately. That's what I liked about the whole thing. In my view there has been nothing remotely so unusual and interesting since.

Good idea. It didn't seem to fit in with pennies, except for the penny farthing bicycle in the ending credits. I'm happy to continue on the prisoner theme, but elsewhere on this forum.

OK, here's my take on the original and the suggested sequal. The original series concerned the attempts by 'Number 6' to escape from the 'village', a surrealistic organisation which was responsible for kidnapping, imprisoning and brainwashing people who had vital information, or who discovered their existence. At the same time, the 'village' used advanced scientific techniques to maintain their control over those they imprisoned, including number 6. Number 6 generally managed to outwit or overcome the efforts to force him to conform to the standards of the 'village' and explain why he resigned from his job as a secret agent, and eventually escaped, destroying the 'village' as he did so. My suggested revival resurrects the establishment of a 'village' in a modern setting, but now with number 6 on the outside in the normal world, where he learns of the re-establishment of the 'village'. He then sets out to find and destroy this new 'village' as he did the old, and the 'village' uses all its powers and technology to prevent him from finding them. In other words, my idea changes the original direction of the programme from a series of escape attempts, and inverts it into a quest, but with the same broad theme behind it. Each episode had its own encompassing title, which described the theme of the episode, as in the original, and each used a number of fantasy ideas to build the story. In each episode number 6 is thwarted by the village, but keeps on trying, getting closer all the time. At the end, number 6 discovers the new 'village' and attempts to destroy it, only for the village to say 'gotcha' and he finds himself a prisoner once again. Hence, the title 'Prisoner's Return' for the whole series. The end. A bit obvious perhaps? What do you think?

I did watch the remake, but I'm afraid that the 'modernisation' wasn't to my taste. The original was of its time, whereas the recent re-make didn't have much to mark it out as different from any other weird and wonderful sci-fi production. For me, it also didn't really have any kind of central theme or message.

Back in the day, I wrote a new series for the Prisoner, entitled Prisoner's Return - the clue to the theme of the series is in the title. There were 10 episodes in all, with basic outlines for two more. Unfortunately, ITC who owned the copyright at the time weren't keen to develop it, so the furthest it ever got was onto a website I designed around 2000 or so. Like my proposal, the website is now defunct!

I've just had a renewal quote from my classic car insurers, and they have, yet again, jumped the cost by a significant margin, so much so that I looked elsewhere. The result was that I managed to halve the premium for better cover. Now, I have just received my quote for the cover for my coin collection, and the total is astronomic. In short for a collection housed in secure storage in a bank, I'm being charged over double the cost of my house and contents insurance. Clearly, the risks of a claim on the property must be much higher than that of a bank heist involving my coins, yet I'm being charged through the nose this year. I get that the insurance company is providing specialised insurance and this is likely to be higher than normal, but twice the cost of something with much higher risks? So, does anybody have any recommendations as to who to approach for a new quote for coin collection insurance? For information the existing policy is arranged through the brokers at Exeter.

How do their rates compare to Rob's 0.5% of total value?

Ouch! That would result in a doubling of my already highly quoted premium! It looks like I'll have to shell out to the present insurer again.

I went down this route some years ago, and because my house insurer is a bog-standard one, they weren't willing to go beyond the 'script' they normally use. It's a good idea, but probably would involve having to investigate other insurers, and then change mine out, which is a bit more of a faff than I can be bothered with.

He'll soon deal with the cabinet rats as they enter the building.

Depends on the dates and denominations. For example, for the George V shilling, you have the following mixes: 1920-22 Silver 50%, Copper 40% and Nickel 10% (Some 1921 shillings contain a small amount of Manganese) 1922-27 Silver 50% and Copper 50% 1927-36 Silver 50%, Copper 40%, Nickel 5% and Zinc 5%

Clearly Einstein didn't understand quantum mechanics!!

He's not the David Mason of World Coins, Canterbury (now defunct) fame is he?

My example of this type - mintmark key, is very thin, if this helps at all.

Oh dear! When I posted this, I was simply illustrating the way in which the stained glass in the Palma Cathedral illuminates the place internally. I did so by referencing the photograph which was used a decade or more ago on the cover of my wife's first poetry book. I had no desire to open up a debate about the quality or otherwise of the image used, or its suitability for a book cover image so I'm slightly taken aback at the comments this has generated. Just for the record, this image was used for the front of the book, with the stained glass circular window alone on the back cover. The image is not photoshopped in any way. The colours were captured in the moment. As far as the fourth year student jibe goes, all I will say is that I make no claims to be a designer, but if this got me a pass I would be quite happy, as it took all of 30 minutes to produce. All it needed was a quick scan of the photo, a bit of contrast sorting, chopping it to size for the cover, and insertion of the text, and saving as a .jpg file, no more than half an hour tops. The choice of the photograph was my wife's and I'm quite happy with her choice. We wouldn't have wanted to bother using a graphic designer, with the expense that entails, since she has no pretentions of becoming the next poet laureate, plus with self-publishing, she just sells small numbers of her books locally. Neither she nor I have any expectations beyond this.

I used this photograph of the interior for my wife's first poetry book. Quite spectacular colours!!

A nice dose of Novichok would be quite appropriate.

For pennies, there's the chap who published a pamphlet style book a year or so ago. His name is Frank Hullett. If you want his email address PM me and I'll send it to you.

Following my successful putting together of a 1893 silver proof set, and housing it in an orginal Royal Mint leather covered box, I've turned my attention to the 1887 set. I already have several of the coins and as a result, I'm turning my attention to the case to house them in. So far, I've seen boxes in dark red with VR on the top, a shagreen box with Specimen Coins on it, a box described as by Spink, a black square box with no writing on it, and a box for the long set with a long involved description of the reason for the set being struck. FWIW, I've also seen a heart shaped box for the long set. Does anybody know which of these is an 'official box' for the short proof set, and which are just private boxes to enable the sale of currency strikes at the time (or indeed later)?

Thank you for this advice. This box looks identical to the 1893 box, which I acquired recently, except for the number of slots for coins. I too will be looking out for one, so there's a bit of a race on???

Empty 11 coin cases are not too difficult, if expensive, but I'm not into proof £5, £2 etc. gold pieces - not without the lottery anyway. Cases of any sort for the 7 coin silver set are more tricky as far as I can judge. I have a shagreen one with a toned set of high grade ordinary strike coins, but I was hoping to establish what the official ones look like and then keep on looking. I take your point about it being difficult to find, though I thought this for the 1893 silver set box, which is rarer than the full set, yet I managed to find one. I live in hope!! I find that everything comes to those who wait. Not long back, I managed to find a rare variety of a 20thC coin that I had been looking for the best part of 25 years, when suddenly one came along, so you never know.

I think you are right - the coat of arms is the giveaway. Whether this is the same for the silver set, I don't yet know.

Shame they don't show the outside of the box, particularly the lid. However, there is a clue in that the box appears to be red or reddish-brown, which would probably eliminate the green shagreen types and the black Spink boxes. Sadly, as I found when researching the 1893 set boxes, the Royal Mint has no records about the packaging (cases) they used at the time.

Envious of one in VF. Mine isn't much better than VG.

I have the following types: 1. DFF, Orn Trident, REG: 2. DEF, Orn Trident, REG: 3. DEF, Orn Trident, REG Am I looking for a DFF, REG (no colon) type as well?