Coinery

I had the good fortune to pick up a couple of these coins, recently, for a bargain £145 the pair. But when pawing over them, marvelling at how new they looked, in what appeared to be nearly full lustre, I noticed they were from the same pair of dies, and looking suspiciously similar. Further investigations revealed that all the other class VIs I could find out there were also looking lustred and from the same dies…beginning to feel suspicious at this point. UNTIL, that is, I discovered the 1969 Colchester Hoard was linked to a couple of the recent sales, leading me to explore that further. The hoard story is fascinating in that it was added to in at least two distinct lots, spanning at least 12 years, and is also thought to be linked to the 1902 hoard, found in the same street. The Edward I class VI coins, numbering nearly 2000, were ‘fresh from the Bury mint, and from the same pair of dies.’ There was previously only ONE known example of that type, so I can say with confidence that my own two coins will have made up a part of that hoard, explaining their fresh surfaces. The BNS article is well worth a read, as is a google search for the history and speculation surrounding the hoard itself. It has strong links with a Jewish family who were occupying the hoard location during that period. https://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital BNJ/pdfs/1974_BNJ_44_5.pdf

Can I ask how you calculated the number of florin collectors, I’d love to do something similar with Elizabeth I and Plantagenet pennies.

It really is a shame not to see clearer images, it does look 5-like. I do draw caution however from the fact that I can just as easily see an inverted A below the 8. Crystal images are an absolute must in these cases.

Always appreciate a good workaround, Pete ☺️ 👍

Or add images/screenshots.

I’ve been getting account suspended too, and also can’t react to messages.

Definitely not the genuine article, but will definitely be the coin in that little group that will catch the highest bidder out, as there’s nothing else in there they could possibly be wanting!

Someone’s going to get their fingers burnt! https://ebay.us/m/qPGfJ7

There was/is a collector called Bianchi…CNG are selling off his/her collection!

I have to confess that’s not a reference known to me, nor Google, apparently! I wondered whether it referred to a BNS article, or similar, but seems not. Can you email CNG and see what they say? It could possibly be a couple of private collectors attempting to use their own means of die cataloging and entered this information on a ticket before selling coins? Many auction houses have the lazy habit of copying this information verbatim.

What Mick said, a very common pewter copy of an Elizabeth Threepence.

Business as usual, then! I still reserve the right to think you unusual, though. Keep going.

You are just very unusual, that’s all, you have the language and insights of someone who has put years into understanding numismatics, not short months. You appear to have achieved a great deal of knowledge in a very short timeframe, it’s baffling…I’d take it as a compliment!

No way you’re new to this, your language and approach is not elementary, it’s very weird! I know it’s not helpful or constructive to say this but I am really struggling, I can’t pitch you at all.