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Thanks so much, Rob, really generous of you, I’ll digest that later, I’m currently in between nights. It’s interesting because I was reading a few of Denis’ articles on the BNS blog last night, that’s a rabbit hole of info. in itself.

I was just re-reading this old post, and I still can’t get my head around the scale of these numbers!

Many thanks TG I’ll message him. ☺️ I’ve been trying to glean a bit more information from the SCBI 39 about the closure date of the Newcastle mint, and of the date signatures of class 10, to see if I can work out how long the Newcastle mint operated into that class. The date of the mint closure appears to be September 1302 but, depending on who you listen to, the commencement of Class 10 is either September that same year (Fox brothers), or nearly 18 months earlier if you go with North? The Fox brothers’ date would suggest a minuscule mintage of class 10 coins under Newcastle, whereas North’s dates would allow a production window of 18 months. Given the number of Newcastle Class 10 coins available, it makes me wonder who’s got the commencement of the class right? I’d love to acquire every mint in every class someday! I’m currently this far down the rabbit hole, so fingers crossed: Class VI Bury St Edmunds (#1) Class VI Bury St Edmunds (#2) 1c London 1d London 1d London (1 x reversed N on reverse) 2a London 2b Canterbury 3b London 3c Canterbury 3e Newcastle 3e York 3g London 3g Lincoln 3g Durham 3g Bristol (1) 3g Bristol (2) 4c Canterbury eBay 4c London 4d London 6a1 London 7a London 8a London 8c London 9b1 Durham 9b1 Exeter 9b1 London 9b1 Newcastle 9b2 York (Royal) 10ab London 10ab Newcastle 10cf1 London 10cf2 Durham 10cf2a London 10cf3 London 10cf5 London 12a Canterbury 12a Canterbury 12a Canterbury 12a London 14 Canterbury 14 Bury St Edmunds 15c Bury St Edmunds eBay

The class 3 and 9 coins available in much better grades generally.

Does anyone have any insight into the relative scarcity of the three Newcastle classes, measured against themselves? Over the last 3 or 4 years I’ve managed to pick up a class 3 and a class 9 in good grades, but have struggled to find the class 10 in a similarly collectable grade, with the attached coin, bearing the full Edward legend, the best I’ve found to-date.

Just highlighting the edited info., latter additions to the above post, the type of information an academic should be drawing attention to himself, lest he be lacking in rigor!

- Absolutely ridiculous…to say I’ve approached/emailed Michael would not, in the least, be a breach of privacy, it would represent a very normal conversation held on a numismatic forum like this. “You are resorting to personal insults simply because a newcomer's analysis turned out to be correct.” - Absolutely ridiculous…I was the first person to say I believed you had an interesting coin with a likely new variety imho! “since you bring nothing but toxicity to the thread, you are now on my ignore list.” - Absolutely ridiculous…you were already earmarked to be on mine first! 🙏

I think you’ll find the 🤷‍♂️ was about a frustration that you baited the forum for weeks, only to share a point of interest with a private message! As I say, a manipulator, a game-player…well below me, m’friend! Big blessings, I hope you find your happy place in numismatics, and hopefully not here 🙏

I’ve been on this forum for many years, dodging many people like you, thereby avoiding losing my privileges on here! But, I have to say, you are 100% the kind of game-playing arsehole that a forum of even-tempered, socially-skilled, intellectuals could well do without! I hope you tire of this site soon, and migrate asap to these other sources that acknowledge and endorse your approaches so much more congenially.

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Just returning to this…I agree with your Berwick classification. Re the portrait, it could be all that extra hair on his forehead, that’s unusual? Otherwise it all looks normal to me, the classic wonky chin, all rather Gollumesque 🙂

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Hmmm, ok…I’m starting to feel I must be out of touch, that all 3 of the posted coins are marked-up at double their value, yet they wouldn’t be prepared to accept market price on stock that has sat around for a while? Anyway, the post was simply an aside, light coining banter, nothing more. When that Edward I class 1c penny has sold, they’re more than welcome to sell my two! Unfortunately, I’ve already parted with my 1700 shilling for £480, so I might have to sing for the remaining £500 😬

Maybe it’s just your natural approach to things, but I can’t imagine for a second it’ll encourage free unguarded comments going forward, that’s all!