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I've only just realised, when cutting bust 1F out, that the topmost curl at the back of the head has broken away somewhere between the Cross-Crosslet and the Martlet/Pheon, which means nearly all the sixpences will be with the broken curl. Anyway, it would be relatively easy to date the fracture from the bust usage across the groats and the 6ds! One day!

Your's does have a 2 in date (1592)! Lol yes i know but i was more curious of your date, plus why on the OBV of yours, but as you say its easy To mistake an E for a 2 lol, Obviously if a pile of punches were sitting around Then it Would easily picked up, but that would then beg the question as to why more errors did'nt occurPlenty did but, in the main, I'm guessing most people were especially cautious, most of the time, she was a bit of a tyrant, our Liz!

Is there anyone else out there seeing a 2 now I've highlighted it, or am I still alone on this? Which i don't mind, of course! ?

Maybe, or just an accidental double-strike of the P punch? Who knows he might've had the wobbles when he realised he'd just smacked a 2 in the legend?As you say, though, there would probably be some sort of attempt to obliterate it, as I'm sure a double-bounced P wouldn't reap anything like the penalty a glaring error would?

Your's does have a 2 in date (1592)!

No, not the same date, but from a coin with a 2 in the date. My point being, that if a 2 punch is at hand, it sometimes gets used in error.

I think you'll have to file a case to get your final value fees back! Or at least you needed to a year ago, the last time I was active on there?

Another example of 2 in legend.

OK, PM sent (for personal collection)!

The ghost/shadow after the S also looks to be a V, and the other straight-edged shadow of a letter before the I is not in alignment with the strong V beside it, which makes me wonder about a coin getting stuck in the machinery and damaging the die? Do you know whether they were grinding off and remaking dies from old stock in this period, as was common with the hammered coinage?

Yes, welcome aboard! Looking forward to seeing some pictures!

I'd say it's not a variety, but rather a die identifier...it looks to me, especially as you can also see the shadow of an 'I', that a coin got stuck in the machine and damaged the die? Or, and I don't know anything about this, do they reuse (grind off [not completely]) the old dies, as they sometimes do with hammered? Thanks for that. Very interesting, and something I'd not considered. I hadn't noticed a shadow 'I' either. Do you mean slightly angled and just to the left of the Tertivs 'I'? if it is it would probably also be in alignment with the wonky lower V'.Reaching for my loupe... Yes, there's also what looks to be a shadow of a letter, maybe V, after the S too?

I'd say it's not a variety, but rather a die identifier...it looks to me, especially as you can also see the shadow of an 'I', that a coin got stuck in the machine and damaged the die? Or, and I don't know anything about this, do they reuse (grind off [not completely]) the old dies, as they sometimes do with hammered?

Arthur, try Colin's website 'about farthings'! He's a member of this forum, and has a link in his signature! Otherwise Google it, it's worth a browse if farthings are your bag!

Yes, very good, Peck!

Yes, I do think TG should change his name to 'crease me up' or maybe even 'been snipped'?

Well lookie here, Monsieur le Paulus, taking another leapt up the old folk tree! Happy birthday, good sir, and many more of them to come! Edit: I love cale, or at least I love Kale, would make a great cake!

Do you know, what I find especially interesting about the pro-slabbers, and a few others come to mind, is the length to which they go to to justify and defend it as a practice! There never seems to be an 'each to their own' approach from the pro lobby, more a full-on 'thou shalt not go raw' and 'feel the fear', you need an expert here approach! You seem like an articulate and intelligent man, Marvin, so I'm hoping you can read this without feeling offended but, in sixty years of collecting, I would like to think I'd come to know the subject well enough to consider myself an expert? Some people need doctors to tell them they have a cold, whilst others come to know what a cold is and get it sorted, hey ho!

And a jolly good name it is too, CT!

Nor did he tell you what was his favourite pizza. What kind of a man is he? Likes dates on his, apparently? Very strange!

I'm guessing you're a fan of slabs, Marvin? Ah, well, to each their own! We've had endless debates about the pros and cons of it all, and end up getting absolutely nowhere! This would follow exactly the same path if I, or anyone else, responded to it! Viva la difference!

Brilliant, has the same reverse as this one 301367223685 sold earlier...the obverse is too messy to compare! But definite copies! Edit: it shares the same obverse too, which means they are hammered from dies in this case!

Just been looking over his stock and past sales! Here's another holed shilling he recently sold! 301367106048 Plus, he is selling another Lis shilling I haven't seen before, which he's sold repeated copies of, PLUS he's got an PM A shilling which also is suspect, I just haven't managed to cross-reference them against his other many shillings! I'm on the phone at the moment, but can anyone pinch the images before he removes them? I'd really like copies!

Love that crime reference number response to his feedback moan!

What's interesting is the slabbed coin has detail missing that is present on the other coins...extra hair, crown arch break, eye detail, etc.? Either the resultant cast's dies were very neatly tooled, particularly in the region of the eye, or the slabbed coin is a later casting, after things have started to wear and block? Anyone got a good quality example of the H7 bust? I'm presuming there was only the one punch?