Coinery

Confirmation that the H8 Laker Groat is a cast pewter copy! The dark blue background is the coin I had!

This was my thought exactly as I was reading through this thread!I'd say this group will produce and find out far more information than any 'privileged' minority of coin 'experts' will ever do!

I had an example of a very similar H8 groat, will look at my images when I get in! Bit of a coincidence that all 3 coins are of known fakes, it must be said!

Goom...I know it's the general recommendation to take your time and know your stuff but, in all honesty, the best learning comes from buying some coins and learning from your mistakes! The best advice is choose your target...eg, if you fancy modern milled, don't get big on W4 and Victoria, buy some g5 and 6! Hammered? Don't start with Richard III, buy some Edward pennies! I think you know what I'm saying...buy some coins, you're going to make mistakes, and you have to, in order to have a better understanding for yourself...you can't teach this in words and pictures! Make some mistakes and get onboard, just don't get burnt!

Co-codamol is the best thing I've found for pain, if you don't mind a bit of constipation and going ever so slightly doolally. It does work though... They just don't put enough codeine in the over-counter version (8mg I think it is), though it's better than nothing and, I agree, it does pack a punch!Don't forget folks, co-codamol contains 500mg of paracetamol per tablet too, so two of them is your paracetamol lot! You could always add ibuprofen to the cocktail, if you're desperate, AND you've taken them before!

Nice background too for this fine polished piece of antique silver!

Definitely not cleaned, at least not in the traditional sense! However, it must have had a very, VERY, minor/sensitive dip...though it will take on a very nice patina over the next few years...not that I'd personally be afraid of zipping it up in a flip and living happily with it 'as is'! Still a nice lot of lustre going on on this coin!

Yarp!

There is something about class that cannot be undermined by the multiple attempts to create a new improved contemporary design. George V tried it, and so have others! Pistrucci every time!

Re the C1 Crown...any thoughts on the central region of the obverse being tooled?

I think garret was referring to the link Paulus put up for me of a clipped 6d (no legend left whatsoever)?

Sorry, Garrett, missed your post! As HC said, a genuine 6d coin, but so heavily clipped as to be worthless, and now around the size of a 3d...hence the 3d reference!

Already £5 more than it should be at £5.19! Tch!

Thank-you, Sir!

I did rather fancy this E1 ?Threepence? 390869594692

Cracks me up!

Thinking on the overall tone of your post, makes me think about the number of quality collections that are dispersed of by unknowing inheritants!Even the coins I hold today would only likely achieve 1/2 or less of what they are worth, should they be left to my wife to ignorantly dispose of them! An asset of this nature has real value in the hand of the informed but, for example, what would a genuine £50,000 collection, comprising of say 2000 coins, at £25 per piece, be worth in a couple of old albums, distributed in ignorance by unenlightened dependants? I've already told my wife who to contact on the forum should I meet an untimely end, for both hammered AND milled! Should anyone receive a 2kg parcel of coins, with a tear-stained letter from my beloved, please feel free to post a very nice obituary here about me...and look after her and my son's interest! Nice guy...you know the kind of thing?????

I asked. Hmm. Proved to him it's a fake and he still second chanced it to another bidder. Deserved the feedback, in my opinion, point him to my old thread a couple of years ago, that shows exactly the same coin (with plug), and the discussion about it being fake...hasn't a leg to stand on!

Another point if interest, is this presently the only known modern fake of this coin?

I'd love to have one in-hand, just to see if it feels instinctively right?

And the neck abrasions, especially, ALL match! Loosing all faith in experts! You're all on your own wits and the predecimal forum m'friends!

Then I guess, as Peter mentioned in a different post, this is indeed the very last net in fake avoidance! Madness that it takes experts on here to expose the inadequacies of experts out there! The story life over!

Be interested to know who the 3 knowledgable experts are, just so I can avoid any of their expertise in the future? If only you could email the buyer, as in the good ole days!

If that coin is genuine, though, there's no doubting that all the copies are cast siblings of it.

Yes, that was it, the 1st coinage h8!