Coinery

Of course! I’m not thinking laterally at the moment! Thanks very much

If you’d been on here 7 years ago there would’ve been four or five knowledgeable people all over your post…there’s probably only one or, if you’re extremely lucky, two people who could even contribute today! Good luck, it’s a decent post!

Oh my goodness if technology could ever look upon her face!

Thinking about how I might just trip along to this auction in January, I noticed the BP at 37% - I know we all bid accordingly, but that’s greed in excess, surely?

I no longer have the material to pin these things down, but if anyone collects in this area they’ll recognise it in an instant, there’s enough to go on, especially with that crude open crown. I’ll be interested to see what pops up, but the general feel of the bust makes it Richard all over to me? I could easily be two monarchs out, though, quite easily, maybe three!

Me neither, but I do so love these historic things! I bought a cracked plaster/mould of Elizabeth I from, I’m told, a GIII fire surround, that was subsequently framed in an extravagant Victorian black frame…I absolutely loved/and still love it! Also, looking through ‘the sale room’ for Elizabeth material, I stumbled across a couple of food boxes for sale in Wiltshire…how bloody amazing is that? Just to sit beside these wonderful things!

What about Elizabeth one’s?

I once had one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321000179711?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 What's interesting, in light of this 2nd copy showing up, is that the cast coin was originally a plugged coin! I assumed initially that someone had contemporarily drilled my copy (thinking it to be a genuine coin to carry around the neck), and then a modern plug was added by someone, who also thought it to be genuine and worth plugging! Seems neither was the case! How odd to make a cast from a plugged coin, when there must have been better out there! I have emailed the seller. If there is no response, I shall pop the link into seuk's new list for 'the treatment'!

Withdrawn from the sale!

Just to say that the eBay, ex Comber, shilling has just gone over £200, which is more than I want to pay for a pitted and holed coin, Lis or not, especially when there are other lots upcoming! I’m personally happy that it’s the shilling from which the other coins were cast, if that’s an element that gives it a nice pirate value, and some added numismatic interest? I didn’t share it here at the time, but I later noticed plenty of red wax in the reverse legend, further adding, along with its weight and general sharpness, to its likely authenticity. Good luck if this interests anybody!

I don’t want to derail the thread here too much, but thanks for that, some good approaches…it would be impossible otherwise!

Quick question re this point. I ask because I’m compiling a catalogue of the Elizabeth I anchor shillings, and would ultimately want to put it out there! What do you do re gathering photos from the net, as it’s sometimes near impossible to track the source or get permission from the original photographer?

It’s superb irony, after just reading City have more than 100 alleged breaches of the same rules, that are still awaiting verdicts! There’ll be some squeaky shorts out there this winter, that’s for sure!

Spink’s description: “…lightly toned on a curiously light planchet, a pleasing very fine.”

This isn’t to say the spink coin is fake, it could again be the donor coin, though it too looks suspicious? The coin I had was fake, underweight, edge-seamed, and taken back by W&W at the time. There are green deposits on the Spink coin which could be copper deposits OR wax? I’m going to look over my browser history again, because I stumbled across an unusually high number of coins with same wax/copper deposits! Now, I just wonder??

No, not the same item, but identical flaws, double-strike, etc. etc.

Upcoming Spink sale!

Old counterfeit shilling of mine!

Superb, many thanks again, and great re the updated document I think you’d be right about the supply scenario…I believe Tim’s name comes up as provenance, presumably on the back of SH’s ticket?

Ahh, just bumped into a little issue with the attached document…it isn’t all of the entrants that have dates! Any thoughts on where Owen sits in the timeframe?

Thanks, Rob. I guess it doesn’t add very much to the coin, historically speaking, but it does at least say the coin’s been through a couple of hands who really should know better, if it’s a copy?

Many thanks, TG, much appreciated.

In connection with another post, what would you say the provenance and timescale of this one is? And, unless it was lost, Chris C. hadn’t prepared a ticket himself?

With just the one possibility that this could indeed be the original from which the others are cast?

Interestingly I noticed another of these ‘plugged’ coins in the Comber sale, though I can’t imagine CC overlooked it himself? I wonder if he made any note of it on the ticket, I know St James’ never mentioned it in the description. Anyhow, I’ve just noticed it’s made an appearance on eBay! For the record, I’ve bought from this seller before and have found him completely above board, a genuine misunderstanding I think! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395020461031?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UtuevqZVSY2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=qduwzHkQTWC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY