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In view of the differing devices, lettering, lis, lions, etc, it looks to have been carved directly onto the dies, rather than made up from individual punches! I can't see anything obvious that might suggest casting from moulds, so I'm thinking hammered and contemporary, any thoughts?

One point that hasn't been mentioned re the CGS change of tack, is the valuations of the coins now they've been upgraded, albeit by name? I bought a CGS coin at EF money, and now have an 'official' CGS UNC, happy days! However, has part of the change been more about keeping the punters happy, when they look in the price guides and see what their coin is 'worth'? So, have CGS also changed their valuations placed against formerly graded coins, now that they are 'officially' a higher grade?

Really interesting post! Great stuff!

Welcome aboard, we get all sorts of coinage on here, I'd say IoM and Irish Coinage is pretty close to home, and would be of interest to most on here! I was watching this eBay coin with interest 321278325585 Just out of interest, what is the earliest dated IoM coin?

Many thanks, Mike, interesting post! Happy New Year to you, too!

Not at the books, but looks a die-block to me, the tail would still point to the bead if full-length!

You must have had at least a few goodies from the 'Bay, surely? I know I have!

I reckon they could knock one up quite easily down the boatyard, I wouldn't buy one!

No criticism of the seller whatsoever, and I love both the coins, AND acknowledge that many coins are still in existence without any trace of tone whatsoever! However, I do honestly think that the OH shilling replicates exactly a number of coins I have myself dipped! As I said, though, this is so difficult to prove one way or the other??? I did think, though, if there was a consensus that though dipping a strong possibility, it would make an interesting statement about the process?

Can't say. Haven't seen a link to the coins in question. sadly I can't help you on that one!

No, it looks like they've actually shaved the edge off at an angle! I can't relate to the images at this point, but if you look at the edge lettering, you can see the angles of the rim run uniformly alongside it!Getting the transaction reversed would be an extremely top move! Let us know how you get on!

Still interesting to note that the 2009 and 2010 5p's are priced £1 for currency, £3 proof, etc.? In other denominations, namely S4231 (Ten New Pence), they are not afraid of using £0.50 as a value?

Top spot AC! I've never observed that before, but agreed, chamfered!

Re the first two coins, would you agree that it's an indication that CGS are soft, or at least neutral, on the issue of dipping? It makes a pretty big statement about the legitimacy of dipping if they are, given the catalogue of other offences a coin can be rejected on! Maybe not a huge statement, but it does add significantly to the dipping debate I think!

It does look cleaned to me, it has that 'kind of surface' in the lit field, but you'll know when you get it in-hand! Get some images up as soon as you can!

All good for the provenance trail, chaps, to have our coins featured in a respectable guide! When are you covering hammered, Chris?

Not done that before, posted within a post! my post is:"Stranger still, the 2008 and 2011 are £3.00 too, so maybe not a typo...what's that all about?"

I posted a Liz shilling about 4-5 months ago, which was the first I'd seen! It was still doing the rounds recently! Edit: still doing the rounds 141134627860

I see your point, but 2009 and 2010 5p's have been set at £1????

I picked up a pristine 2012 5p last night and, for the first time, just for fun, looked in the decimal section of Spinks! Am I missing something? S4671 2012 5p = £3.00 ????????

This isn't to stir-up an old debate about slabbing, but what do you think of this 221275625618 and maybe even this 221275625610 ? Nice coins, but the first looks especially similar to experiments I've had with a pot of Goddards! I wonder whether CGS slab dipped, but not 'cleaned' coins, on account it would be very difficult to say that a lightly dipped coin wasn't in fact a vacuum, or otherwise well stored coin, from any given era?

just a bit of one!I'm glad I'm not alone then! They'll never be worth more than face, not even in my son's lifetime I shouldn't think?

Talking of decimal, I played cards last night at my father's and, maybe drank too much wine, I don't know? But I pulled a 2013 10p and 5p, and a 2012 5p from the playing money! I took my temperature, and that all seemed to be in order, so I'm not sure what's going on?

I've just managed to successfully save, David! Sorry, no ideas to suggest re your problem????

I picked up what could possibly be a 2000 50p fake the other day? As soon as I get the camera out, I'll get the images up for thoughts! If it is, it's for whoever it was on here that I said I'd keep any modern fakes back for, it's the reason I didn't spend it on a pint!