Coinery

Is Scottish Money a moderator here? I didn't know that! No apologies needed whatsoever on my account!

Other than the crusty blue spots, I don't think we'll see very many others to give it a run! To be honest, I think even £400 would've been too cheap!

Yes, fingers crossed it's a short stall and, sorry, yes, I really should've posted it earlier...I'd been watching it from the beginning, knowing I wasn't ever going to be a contender! Once a coinery, always a coinery! Good luck with DNW! Hammered by any chance?

In any significant way, probably? Quite possibly, maybe? Potentially, likely?I can't see a way around it at the moment! I'm keeping an eye on the Tudor fakes/counterfeits to keep me onboard for now...will of course be an interesting resource one-day but, for now, only tears and dreaming for the genuine article!

I thought so! Just got to get organised! 2 years!

Thanks, Paulus!

I'll definitely take a look at that! I'll have to rope you into proof reading the Pumpy Grottom and Moley & the Treetop Cafe for me! A very different discipline...though I have got a grown-up one on the back-burner called Cider & Fire! That could be more up your street?

Thanks!

I'm actually from over the border in the posh part of Essex. Just come to Haverhill to see if I could find the hub caps off me motor. Been here 15 years now and still haven't found them Here they are. It was a Citroen you were driving, wasn't it?http://associatesmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/300-Movie-Publicity-Still-300-222280_1500_783.jpg I'm guessing you've finished the property, then?

You should also bear in mind that the opportunity does exist for strikes in unrecorded metals. cf my article in the BNJ on the Weyl patterns. Having bought a couple of 'aluminium' patterns in the Adams penny sale in 2003, I then almost cra**ed myself upon discovering that they were over 3 times the weight they should have been. Only after I had sat down and taken a deep breath did logic take a grip when I appreciated that it didn't matter what they were struck in as long as they were genuine - cue nine previously unrecorded varieties. i.e. you cannot rely on weight alone.Quite true re your last point, though I'd still probably suffer a breakdown first!The coin I'm referring too was hammered, though! I've not read your article, which is unforgivable to be honest...can I have the ref?

Precisely! so much better put than my effort!

Don't make the mistake of confusing it with Goddard's Silver 'Polish,' as I know some have!Even if you don't like fully dipped coins (which I don't), it can be a miracle worker on an 'uncomfortable' blemish if carefully used! 'Dunk' a dozen scrap coins beside a running tap, then stroke a few others with the tip of a dipped cotton bud, all beside running water, of course, and using seconds as your timescale, you'll find yourself a fair tool I'd say! I have used it in the past to reverse things I wish had never happened to a coin; stains, prints, poor storage, etc. I feel pretty comfortable with that!

natural toning starts from the edge and moves inwards... I'm obviously tying myself into a knot here, but I'll give it one last try! What I mean to say is: if you look at say the obverse on the coin in question, you'll notice the toning isn't creeping in from the edge at the same rate around the circumference (I hope I've nailed it this time?)...this is what I meant about an 'unbalanced' tonal appearance, which isn't to my taste! Not that'd I'd say no, of course!

Hear blinkin' hear! And that coin's so beautifully buttery it would melt if but a ray fell upon it!Very pretty!

It's a lot simpler even than that - they are run by the same people! You could regard CGS as the TPG arm of LC. Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that LC offers for sale on occasion clearly counterfeit coins? Like this Centenary Florin they sold back in August 2013. It is not only a counterfeit, but a pretty bad one. You're not alone, no, it bugs the hell out of all of us! To date I've managed to procure 2 fakes from a major auction house, one which was spotted before setting off home, the other they honourably refunded me for (nearly 6 month's later) when I finally weighed it for cataloging and frightened myself!No complaints, just disappointed that it was I who had to spot them!

Hah, yes, I'd certainly put it up if I could! All our tracks are on tape...though I do mean to organise a digital transfer at some point soon (ish)!

Maundy is one series which often exhibits toning of this nature, particularly if it has been stored in a case. The more undisturbed the set, the more likely it is to see one side more heavily toned from contact with the case. Picking up the coin, even by the edge will inevitably leave minute deposits at the rim which increases the chance of toning at this point, even if we are looking many years into the future.I wasn't referring to imbalance fore and aft, I was meaning the degree to which the toning spreads inwards! It's a bit like an off-centre hammered strike, for want of a better word, though Peck has seen it as central! Not instantly appealling to me!

Cheers, Rob!

I personally don't like the imbalance of the tone on this one! Balance is an important feature in my book, mostly derived from my interest in, and the vagarities of, hammered strikes (and tone of course)!

The low estimate I believe is not to pull in the punters, but rather to cover the auction house in the event of a passed lot. Most rooms will buy in the unsolds at say 80% of low estimate. It is in their interest to keep that number as low as possible. Low enough, then most will sell. They gain nothing from inflating the estimate.What's the etiquette around that then Rob? Is it a case of letting the staff know of your interest straight away, or is it handbags at auction close?

W&W are also guilty of the low estimate manoeuvre! Incidentally, for those interested, their next auction has a whole pile of low to mid-grade c2 crowns going through!

My personal advice would be to 'learn your coins' and forget which TPGC is best for any given coin; not that there isn't plenty written here about it already, if you wish to pursue it (good point re centralising it all)! There have been far too many errors made by them to warrant any faith in them, unless it's about slabbing to sell to those who are determined to follow this path! The thing to definitely be wary of is US TPGC's who slab UK coins, there are examples where fakes have been entombed as genuine, amongst others!

I spent an absolute age tracking down a truly UNC 1901 farthing! I still haven't got the full denomination set in UNC (Florin anyone?)!

Try and get some pictures posted, hazhutch! There is a 'sticky post' with lots of help on this, if you're struggling! Welcome aboard!

Flippin' 'eck, lovely!