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Interesting, because, as you mention, these decisions are generally commercially driven...what does that say for the coin market, as it presently seems to be performing admirably in the general market! As a major world player in numismatics, have Spinks some hidden insights into future outcomes? I'd personally say, yes, they have...not that this conclusion can be drawn from their recent disinterest in the coin market! I would personally add that the TPGC's have introduced a massive investment in coins, from those who know nothing whatsoever about collectable coins and, I believe, this has brought about a 'laziness' and complacency in the slabbing industry! This will eventually implode through lack of confidence in the 'product' and drag the market to its knees! Without a new collector base, I believe we'll be able to fill our boots...but investment propositions? Gone! No more!

LIS & Lions say no! It would be a major variety find too, if it WAS an overdate, as the 8/7 coins are only known with an inverted 8, and C*C*'s is correctly orientated! I do wonder where he imagined a 7 in the first place?

The garter star and edge are the big stand-outs for me on this coin! I think at some point it would be worth a proper study into what's right and wrong about these coins, as I'd like one too one day! This is the kind of good fun, research-journey, type collectors can get involved in, as it must be on the list for most? It's usually easy to discount cast and electrotype fakes at the macro level, as was clear with John's 1905 shilling (thread here somewhere), which looks great in-hand, except for the 'bulge', which could easily have not been there, and weight (mostly). However, milled fake/counterfeits are a very different animal, of course! With these we need a die-study to firstly identify what's correct, and how many varieties (if any) are in existence, and then a die study of the fakes (at the level seuk has been doing) because, no matter how well they make the fake dies, there is always something to ID it at the micro level - at least there is at the moment!

What I like about your collection BRG is the consistency of tone and quality...were these all acquired from the same old collection, or have you sourced them individually? One...by one....by one...slowly but surely. Good work! Really looks as though they've lived side by side for centuries!

What I like about your collection BRG is the consistency of tone and quality...were these all acquired from the same old collection, or have you sourced them individually?

I'm not sure if Numismatic Photography has much of a following of interested persons outside the USA, but Mark Goodman's book that you linked to is superb. I know of about two dozen or so of us semi-professional and professional numismatic photographers here in the USA, none of whom use scanners. There's a reason for that. Will you PLEASE stop with all that. Some of us have no choice. Yes, I'd be happy if things were toned down a little, or at least sensitive to the forum masses as a whole! I think in the 'excitement' of the thread, we have become a little channelled and have forgotten, in this instance, at least, that not everyone can afford a decent set-up, or even have the privilege of photographing their collection even if they did! This forum is made up of individuals who can afford 10's of thousands for a coin and, equally, just £10, we need to avoid becoming too elitist in our excitement! I'm only griping coz I'm skint myself! Com'on Scott bring us all down to earth!

How on earth did you manage to scan the edge? Now that is clever!Would be a great idea for the edge of ANY milled coin, especially the more valuable coins you were either selling or buying?

I'd say no as, if the plan is to sell it, you could have problems and, if it's for your own pleasure, can you really kid yourself...you have the coin????Edit: from the perspective of over-cooking the image I mean...and that's hard to avoid, to discipline yourself too! Stuart I have bought many coins on a picture and when received I have been pleasantly surprised. Some ebay sellers and dealers pictures are rubbish.This I have taken to my advantage.(especially in years gone by). On Ebay Lucido is a classic example where punters lap up his coins as they are cleverly pictured.(perched on a finger at an angle) Grades are sometimes clearly over stepped but coins still sell for a premium. If you picture a farthing blown up to dinner plate size (aka Dave ) the buyer will no doubt love his 22mm copper disc when it arrives...horses for courses. What I'm saying is, if you take a beauty of an image, you can sometimes be disappointed by the actual item when you come to browse it!I've taken some images of E &C1 coins before and, after processing them, have had to go back to them and tone them down, as they were prettier than the coins themselves, which I didn't want...I wanted to be able to look at my image-collection, and not be in the least bit disappointed when I flipped open the album!

I'd say no as, if the plan is to sell it, you could have problems and, if it's for your own pleasure, can you really kid yourself...you have the coin????Edit: from the perspective of over-cooking the image I mean...and that's hard to avoid, to discipline yourself too!

It depends on what kind of scanner you prefer to use and on the photoshop version of course. Usually I scan in all my coins... just try that one: CCD technology scannersChKy, are these exceptional examples of your scanner's capability, or are they representational? The images here are excellent for a scanner, what kind of resolution do you get? Did you resize the images here?

I don't understand, why three? If for a future return, there are better coins to spend the other £40 on for that, surely?

Just thought, being as most of us use Paypal, that we could share any scamming attempts here, and hopefully stay up to date with it all! So, today I received an email, saying that £40+ has been paid from my account to Skype (which I don't use) for a 3-month period! At the bottom of the email there was a link saying 'if you did not authorise this payment, open a dispute here!' That was the danger zone, of course! PayPal advise that people first check their accounts by opening a new browser and entering PayPal.com and logging in from there to check for any legitimate payments, etc. Also, they ask that any fraudulent emails be forwarded in full to them at spoof@paypal.com

You've certainly opened my eyes, BRG, nice coins!

You lost me there, Peter! StuartI thought the thread was started by Richard (TG) (your avatars are similar) PS I've just sold your boat to an American so please advise me your bank details to enable funds transfer. how much have we made?

Fabulous copper/bronze coins, yet again BRG! Makes me wonder about collecting coins not for their classification, denomination, date, rarity, etc...but just for the quality & tone alone, whether it be Edward I or George VI, just a pretty wallet full of art! Actually, I've just looked at all the coins I've kept aside and, in some respects, this is what's naturally happening as I offload coins to release some capital...I'm very happy to say!

You lost me there, Peter!

I'm glad for this thread, it's good to stay ahead and stay sharp in such things!

Black would be the colour of old silver, but also appears on CuNi and pewter/base-metal coins!It would be useful information I think on coins that were silver-plated, copper-based, coins (coins generally contemporary made to fool the public of the day) but I don't think you'll find that's the case with these wreath fakes, which have been created to fool collectors!

I used to live a mile from Saltford, it's miles from the coast! It's as close to Bath as Bristol Having lived on a cliff, overlooking the estuary, I can confirm that coins tone extremely quickly if left unsealed! I bought my wife a vicky halfcrown brooch, which went from blue to black in the space of 4 SUMMER months! We were living in a caravan at the time and had the doors and windows open a lot! Breath in that fresh see air, that was our policy! I wouldn't have kept my collection in that space, though! I should perhaps add, there were probably a great deal less other pollutants in the air on that cliff, and lord knows what all of those little nasties can do to our coins?

Easily fixed in Photoshop: 1799Halfpenny5guns.jpg (It sounds like you need to underexpose by at least one stop for copper? Maybe even more.) Nice one, Peck!

Even the proof often does have that weak fleur de lys on the right hand side of the crown. Now that's something I wasn't expecting, something else I've learnt about G5 proofs!

Looks like it has the usual weak-struck fleur on the crown, not what you'd expect from a proof! It doesn't leap out at me, Danz!