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This is fun...just picked up my W&W lot today, and thought I'd share the packaging!
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Whilst odd to use such a punch of Edward posthumously it strikes me as more odd that it is used in such a location on the coin. I think we've got crossed wires, as the punch was used posthumously on the Edward coins in the Elizabeth reign! If it was the greyhound punch on the sixpence, it could only ever have been someone messing around at the mint, so its purpose and location on the coin would be meaningless anyway! It's too unlikely to be a possibility, of course!
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You can also get those foam/plastic rings as 'grippers' I believe?
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Heritage Submission Shock!
Coinery replied to Coinery's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
"Thank you for your interest in Heritage Auctions. Unfortunately the item you have submitted does not meet our minimum value threshold for sale at auction or for direct purchase. Our minimum consignment value is $5000." -
Victorian Shillings - Die Numbers 1864-79
Coinery replied to lordshill1867's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
This forum is pretty damn awesome, is it not? -
As for the countermark, it does appear rather odd. I'm still not convinced. I've requested larger images, but we'll see. As an aside, can someone else type timeline originals into Google.co.uk and let me know what the second suggestion is? As you can imagine, there are not a lot of image resources for the countermarked coins of E6. I've circled the regions which particularly caught my eye. There's not enough to go on unfortunately and, what looks especially similar between the two coins is, in fact, part of Edwards tunic/armour. I doubt we'll ever know and, even if we did, why anyone would be playing around with an old punch at the mint is anyone's guess! Thanks, Clive, for securing the image!
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It's my understanding that words which run into each other are poor/useless for searches? I remember reading that, whilst it makes it harder to remember a web name, hyphenating the words does wonders for your searchabilty!
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Victorian Shillings - Die Numbers 1864-79
Coinery replied to lordshill1867's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Welcome aboard! I don't think ESC will set your world on fire if you already have Davies, and that's about my limit for 19thC shillings! Victorian silver has a good following on here, so I'm sure article after article will shortly follow! -
Gosh! You have to admire how they've got the coin to match the holographic label on the slab! Been removed! I'm still seeing it!That's bizarre, so am I now! The link definitely directed to eBay's 'this item has been removed' page...weird!
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Gosh! You have to admire how they've got the coin to match the holographic label on the slab! Been removed!
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1917 London Sovereign In Upcoming London Coin Auctions December Sale -
Coinery replied to VickySilver's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Good spot, and also an odd 'die' flaw at the edge in that region too! Possible casting spur? -
1917 London Sovereign In Upcoming London Coin Auctions December Sale -
Coinery replied to VickySilver's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
For me, the edge/milling looks too uniform, and the surface more bronze-like in its marks (instinct only, of course, no evidence at all)! Have to lay this edge on ya for comparison...sorry! http://george-coins.co.uk/AU-George-V-1914-Sovereign-P3125759.aspx -
1917 London Sovereign In Upcoming London Coin Auctions December Sale -
Coinery replied to VickySilver's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
I thought the general consensus was 'if that's fake, we're buggered for these too'? -
1915 3D, 5 Over What?
Coinery replied to Rob's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Pah! I'd been looking through a few images in order to add some kind of intelligent contribution to the posts! I had none! -
The trouble is, it's too generic. It says nothing about the owner's name and/or business or what particular aspect of coins the website is about. IMO it would be like someone specialising (either as collector or dealer) in vintage BMWs, having a domain name of "automobiles.com". It would be good for a general educational site about coins, their history, etc .. if Wikipedia didn't already exist Totally on the ball, PK, a useless search term for coins! You may as well have AUTOmatic.com, for all the good it would do you as a search term!It's an academic site name, which could be acquired for pennies, if you were happy with numis-coins.com or numismatic-history.com, etc.!
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One For You Hammered Types
Coinery replied to Gary D's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
I think Spinks is as good for Tudor at least! It's a little more useful pre-that, not much though, as you still have to rely on more specific texts for full provenance! -
Elizabeth Lis Penny!
Coinery replied to Coinery's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
But it was butchered, Dave! I would've paid £50 for it, and maybe I'm a bit bid shy on account of funds, but one will turn up on eBay where someone forgets to mention 1st issue or Lis...I'll have that one, but I still wouldn't bid more than £50 at that grade Would be interesting to look at the auction history of LIS pennies? -
I knew this would be hot, but not £171 hot for a mashed-up example! Wow! 300990122622
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I guess it goes back to the point, what actually defines AT! Because a 're-toning nicely' coin, which many must be out there, or a time-suspended toned coin, which has suddenly been unlocked from its dark place (or slab) to begin a second, possibly third, stage of toning, is that a genuine tone? Really difficult! But, I guess for myself, that, as long as the tone looks natural (ie not accelerated in any way) in its progression, it's all good! Eye appeal is of course king and, to use the OP coin as an example, I'd want to suspend it in exactly the state it's in presently...which also begs the question, if someone had had the same thought in 1920, would it be a lesser coin not to have had its full 100 year whack of oxidation and grime?
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I think it's all about intent. A silver coin stored in inert conditions will over many years go though grey and eventually to black. Add any type of polution into the mix and you get colours. So is storing a silver coin in an old brown envelope AT or NT.Apologies to all for sidetracking this great thread, but silver coins do not follow a predictable colour change! I recently lived right beside the Severn estuary, and any and ALL exposed coins would go steely blue with rainbow hues! It's been annoying to say the least, as they look atrocious until they go through this 'window' and either 'brown-out' or go dark enough that they don't look US rainbow-toned!I've got an E7 Crown that I've had in said conditions, which I'm going to sell just as soon as I get it photographed (I'll post them up here for interest, though it's now much darker than it was in the rainbow zone), it's had nothing added, just a coin sat on the cupboard!
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So, this also raises a new point...what determines AT? Is an old, deep grey, hammered coin, that has been cleaned from the ground, and then stored in an old collector's cabinet for 200 years, artificially toned? Is a previously dipped coin, that's been sat on the top shelf of a kitchen cupboard for the last year, artificially toned?
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Story time. Bidder 1: 33% activity with seller. Bidder 2: 100% activity with seller. Bidder 3: 33% activity with seller. Bidder 1 has their only other two bids with just one seller in the Clothing category. Bidder 3 has their only other two bids with, conveniently, just one seller in Baby Clothes. As for the other bidder, 100% activity with same seller but retracted as 'Entered Wrong Amount'. What's the bet the two sellers in the Clothing categories are Bidders 1 and 3? I was just going to say 'I wonder if people are thinking it's the rare large bust 3D on account she's calling it a sixpence'?But you've just answered that one!
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Stuart, the seller clearly knows what they're talking about. Her response to an innocent question by an 'unsuspecting' eBayer was as follows: "ive had this coin since my dad passed away in 1996 he was a collector ,,had it valued ,, its worth a lot more but I thought ide start auction low ,,its exact coin to ths one ,,,thanks for intrest ,,,ebay id 260642742187 " Great. So it's now a countermarked 'sixpence', too. Perfect. What's interesting, is she doesn't point to this comparison in her listing, so who's bidding?Also, Timeline, how I skip past their listings! I love the 'unique, unrecorded' countermark and their 'illustrated certificate of authenticity'! Having said that, I'm not in a position to check it properly now, but that 'unique' countermark does have a whiff of back and fore-legs of a sitting greyhound about it? I'd certainly be measuring up the punch height and looking at the E6 countermarked coins! Couldn't afford it, even if it was...could be worth a double-check, though????? Could also just be a 'unique' bit of arsing around! I'll still take a look tomorrow night, though, unless it's 'ruled' out before then!
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Speechless, Jaggy! Wow!
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And that CNUT and Cromwell! Blinking, Blimey, Bonkers! And ALL the others on here...it's like a sweet shop!