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I know CGS need to exercise caution but, honestly, what else could it be? Marking in the lines of what can be viewed of the underlying letter, and then inverting the lines, we get the above! Absolutely no chance of an A being involved, as I took the lines for a 'walk' around the legend! The only difficulty I faced is with the resolution of the images as, for example, between the 'V' of the M in the CGS image, there can be seen a clear line/point, whereas in Rob's image it doesn't appear to be so obviously there...maybe Paulus can give us a pointer at which image is most representative in this area? Anyway, on Rob's image the lines-inverted looks just about spot on, whereas in the CGS image (if the lines are there) the spacing isn't right for the pointing (if you know what I mean), but this spread would be expected if the overpunched letter was to run between the diagonals, which of course it does! M over inverted M for me! Edit: of course, it could be asked 'where is the rest of the inverted M'?

I know J. Bispham has done some work with the base shillings! It could be worth searching his name for any further studies, he may have researched the fine silver too?

Thanks for the info cristatus, would in interested to hear your final thoughts, as I've got to be a little more organised now myself! My own simple folders with 1567, 1568, etc just ain't good enough any more!

Not realising until just that nearly everything's photographed in the online catalogue! Doh! My lot looks even nicer online!

Brilliant!

Hold on Rob! Before inviting everyone to the party, can't the secret few still get their shots off first! I think they are a little bit like Croydon, where attendance is crucial for items not photgraphed in the catalogue! I wouldn't fear fakes with them, though, they have been exemplary in their response to these things! I do like the location of the auction...you can view the lots at their offices, make your way into town and grab a pizza express lunch before firing next door to get your bids in! Nice experience all round! Edit: and as is clear from the responses, not everyone follows their stock list, which can only mean one thing...happy days!

you don't see those portcullis types very often!

Coolio, I'm really glad the journey's a forward one! Will email you tomorrow...nothing really important, only coin stuff!

Hey, really sorry to hear about that ankle, Paul...what's up?

When's the E7 6d up for sale? Only joking, Paulus...if that ever comes on the market, I'd buy it for you! honest!

Paulus you've got a full inbox!

I think the new 'CGS variety' identity is nothing other than a replication of what they are already doing when they provide graded material to the collector market, and we all know about that already! Do you not think there is an eager bunch of CGS league-table collectors all racing around in search of their 'new-found varieties', which we have all seen, but cannot neccesarily sell on (or would neccesarily want to, given their varietal importance) to the general market without either a mention in a book or, more importantly now, a label on a slab...like, c'mon, CGS found it! People are now prompting CGS to look at points of interest in their submissions! I've only just realised I'm more irrational than I ever was re CGS...they really annoy me nowadays with their prices, timescales, and 'breakthroughs' in numismatics! It also annoys me that you can buy certain coins from a catalogued victorian collection, and STILL need it slabbed by CGS before you can sell it as such to most of the coin-buying population! Grrrr, rrrr, rr! Right, that's me done! How the devil ARE you Paulus? no, I hope it all goes well, and it all comes back to your advantage. Your submissions are obviously well thought out, and to each their own! It quite often makes commercial sense...which is bloody annoying!

They'll be doing chipped teeth, progressive cracks, and serifs soon! Mark my words, if that's another avenue of revenue scooping, they'll have a finger in it! Edit: re the M/W coin, and I don't remember it, but if there's any shadow of a doubt whatsoever they won't touch it with a barge pole! HOWEVER, give them an obvious chipped tooth, with which they can please their clients with a 'new variety' status, they'll be on it like Peter and John on a rising trout!

I think we must ALL be having auction syndrome at the moment! I've had to return 2 of the last 5 eBay purchases (vicky 3d & 1901 HC), which is about my yearly quota ordinarily!

Unlisted in ESC and Spink but I think well enough known ...Have you spotted the variety? Looks like the BP without stops,cant see the other one though,unless the missing serif on the farthing. No stop after B (but there is after P), the other variety they have found I can't quite make out myself and it is on the 1728 ... The G,was looking at 23837 which has a more progressive die crack through the garter and shield,so it looks like yours is an earlier coin.On saying that 23837 was given a grade of 60,and in my opinion yours is better. They are currently stating: 'G and E of GEORGIVS struck over lower, weak G and E'With all due respect to the submissions, but I am just wondering whether they (CGS) have suddenly spotted a new commercial arm to their existence, and are exploiting it to its full potential?

I'm guessing you'd lose a lot of the resolution though, wouldn't you?Yes, but it's better than nothing.In which case, a neat little backdoor trick, Paulus!

That's not a shilling, it's a sixpence!

I'm guessing you'd lose a lot of the resolution though, wouldn't you?

Hmmmm! Why does this sound like a plug? My sincere apologies if it's not! I haven't clicked on the link, so I'm not 100% sure, but it sounds to me to be very much like a number of auction sites that are springing up to emulate eBay! Good luck if you use it, I'd be very interested to hear of your experiences if you do? You have to remember however that the exposure you will receive on such a site, even though targeted, will be a drop in the ocean of that that you will receive on eBay!

Excellent!

ahh, dear! Bring back the 'misheard lyrics' segment of Never Mind The Buzzcocks, I say. (Their treatment of Wuthering Heights is on YouTube..) I have sung that song from start to finish on many occasions...still can't tell you a single word of it however! I did like Kate, though...very floaty!

Peck, freeman, groom, are a good starting point, covering the period 1558-to modern decimal! And don't forget our Colin's website! (It will probably be in his signature?) About Farthings! Yes, superb resource!

ahh, dear!

Peck, freeman, groom, are a good starting point, covering the period 1558-to modern decimal!

Ah, a man after my own art... or a blustery Wuthering Heights night!