Coinery

Seen and heard it all now! On the phone, so what is it? I'm guessing 1(9)02 E7 empire coin, or medal/commemorative????

We'll be seeing a few interestingly toned coins on the circuit shortly, then?

I know exactly where you're coming from, it was a shock for me too!

What? All wind and wuthering?

I know - I raised the same thing just after the new forum launched! I was most indignant that it was on my profile but no-one else's Turns out that we can each only see it on our own profile. Apparently we can be warned (by Chris? ) for minor transgressions.. Presumably they are like a yellow card - accumulate too many and you get sent off - which begs the question, why are Dave and I still here? lol !!! ~ this forum is actually very civilized compared to most. I should say! You should see the fixes that some of the canal boat forums get themselves into! This is all positively Jane Austen on here!

Ready the horses, at the morning dew we ride out!

To quote Declan, 'oh dearie me!' I'm beginning to sense I've read this all before!

always does make me think about this aspect of it as last time i spent about £450 grading the 30 odd coins and could have spent that on even more coins if not send to be graded. with regards to graded ones, ive never been to coin fairs and the likes but are there stalls where they sell graded coins and also do they seem to do very well?think im still getting over how unpopular graded British coins are Coin fairs are generally populated by those who've transcended the need to have an item graded for them so, whilst I've never even sold a burger at a coin fair, I'd say I wouldn't be backing my beer money on a table dealing only in slabs! Could be wrong, mind you!

The one's they send back in a little plastic flip with a sticker on it, probably covers the annual invoice for plastic slabs!

You've got to be kidding? In a commercial world, the answer to that is most definitely no! In the real world, they never told me I had a few freebies!

Hah, CGS, this'll be popular! Now, where does one start? Actually, it's a good reason to stick with hammered, though I believe they are now attempting those too! Basically, WHY? And then after that, all that's left is about turning the same coin into the same coin, but for someone else, which means we're only talking about the commercial aspect of slabbing? So, slabbing coins under the value of actual slabbing fee + extra profit made through inflated prestige of a slabbed coin just isn't viable! Slabbing higher-value/grade coins, yes, believe it or not, someone will pay a fools random for it! I sent off around 20 some time ago, of which 3 or 4 came back unslabbed! An 1887 jubilee coin, declared a fake, which tested for high-grade silver composition, and I still to this day don't get it! A G4 farthing with 'active' verd????? didn't get that either! And a variety C2 farthing, which they graded SO low, it wouldn't financially stand amongst its peers, so I broke it out, and sold it amongst its peers! Big thing, I'd only slab to sell to those who don't know their coins, for hard bucks, so I can understand why you need to find all this out, as it's a bloody great waste of time (long, long, time!) and money otherwise! Ohhhh, TPGC's what have you done to us?

Talisker for me, please! Or a gran reserve Rioja, not fussy which!

You shouldn't joke, Peck...what will happen to us all when the Chinese buy a coin from the UK to cast the latest mould for a new fake!Edit: which of course was a fake to begin with!

Azda might have some opinions!He's taken it off Perhaps he read our posts. Fear not, Dave, you can still win it here. Predecimal Advisory Service tooooo the rescue! We're happening! I'm guessing there'll be a bottle of wine in the post for us all?

I'M interested in buying/seeing/hearing about modern fakes and contemporary counterfeits of the Tudor period, especially Elizabeth, of course! Ironically, one of the great things about buying and taking an interest in fakes, is that you don't end up buying fakes (mostly)! So, I'm interested in seeing ALL Tudor fakes, so I can scare myself with what quality is about, but would buy any Elizabeth fakes/counterfeits that I haven't got or already know about. Seuk has been tipping me off about those that he spots (many thanks, I did win those 2 lots incidentally), so any other eyes and tip-offs would always be appreciated! One of my regrets in life is handing back to W&W the best counterfeit groat I've seen, in exchange for £50 off a lot price...what was I thinking!

Not sure about that soldery-looking blob, either! Don't worry Stuart. It's been lovingly described as "The coin has not been cleaned and displays natural tone alover." Ahh, a natural toned lover, it's been such a long time! Though I do prefer mine cleaned!

Not sure about that soldery-looking blob, either!

Absolutely, you don't see those on the bay too often! In fact, I haven't seen one yet...top spot! I'm guessing he didn't list it as such?Yes, it was listed as such. Soon after Christmas/New Year, people back to work and skint. So few buyers around.Obverse Two lessons to be learnt there, then! Nice one!

I've picked up a CR-2 obverse sixpence, but could do with thoughts on the reverse overdate to clarify whether it is a CR-a or CR-b reverse? The two reverses are separated by only two kinds of overdate...a 1578/7/6 (CR-a), or 1578/7 (CR-b ), they share all the other identifiers, shield, lions, lis, leaves, etc. If anybody knows for an image of a 1578/7/6, or where I could see/get one, then the issue can be cleared up quite simply, as there is reportedly only ONE single die for this treble combination. My overdate is the top one, I've put a few other pictures in to assist the grey matter...it's the tiny bump over the top right-hand edge of the seven that sparked my imagination, could this be the upper-most tail of a six? I know it's easy to imagine all kinds of things with these 'marks,' but any input OR the actual image of the treble-date would be most grateful. I'm pleased with this coin and would love to put the classification of it to bed!

Now THAT's a proper unrecorded variety! It went to a guy in our club who collects only Elizabeth 1st. As his conventional wants list is the size of a postage stamp, he appreciates the oddball things,Lucky chap...one for Chris Comber, that one!

You get quite a few lis shillings cropping up on ebay. 8 or 9 years I picked up a 1B wireline which was essentially unworn though did have a crease from the spade - £130 on a midweek lunchtime was a no brainer. Absolutely, you don't see those on the bay too often! In fact, I haven't seen one yet...top spot! I'm guessing he didn't list it as such?

Now THAT's a proper unrecorded variety!

Was just taking a look at groundy's other offerings and saw this 111172797832 It IS a known variety (maybe not in Spink's I grant you) but, more importantly, he's got so carried away with the rare UNlisted spiel, that he's forgotten to mention it's a LIS shilling, which could quite possibly be on a few 'saved searches'!

There are so many non-overdates being sold as overdates! Almost makes it look rarer to get a standard 77 or 78. I think you're right!

Thanks for the alert, Clive, but this appears to be a straight 1578 according to BCW! I can't really tell from the image, but all the 1578 overdates should have the overmark too (Cross over Eglantine), which it doesn't look to have. Also, the lions and leaves on this reverse are from 1578+ punches, and the lions (67) especially, are only known on straight '78's (the 1578 overdates all sharing lions 62, which this coin definitely doesn't have). Sadly, I believe this is reverse CR-d3 myself!