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Oi. What about the halfpenny and farthing? Both point to the N with the farthing marginally closer to the centre. So we can categorically state that pennies are the oddballs. Nothing new there then. The red rag is a flyin'!

There's no VAT on books, so import duty? Wasn't aware of that and certainly hasn't happened to me before. I think somebody else on here said that! It was 4 horological books from the US!

I'd say you've earned, at the very least, a token visit to your site. I did have to do this in 2 reads, though! edit: Royal Mail charged me a £9 handling fee on books!

Welcome aboard, MRD, it is indeed a fine forum, with a large world-wide audience. There are people active on here, pretty much 24/7. However, when there's not, there's always plenty of reading to be done while you're waiting! Since we have finally tamed the Scots, I suppose you can now call it GB, but ESC, Peck, and Wren, still have this strange notion that there is such a thing as an English coin! Uprising to follow shortly Welcome to the forum

Welcome aboard, MRD, it is indeed a fine forum, with a large world-wide audience. There are people active on here, pretty much 24/7. However, when there's not, there's always plenty of reading to be done while you're waiting! Since we have finally tamed the Scots, I suppose you can now call it GB, but ESC, Peck, and Wren, still have this strange notion that there is such a thing as an English coin!

I knew that was going to be a phwoar, even before clicking the link! Very nice, indeed!

Just for reference, a high grade example looks like this: I think you're leading him astray with your twopence, Peck A penny looks like this: Phwoarrr!

Its very scary....i suspect the Chinese have already sorted out the problems...the 1905 fake shillings are much easier to spot......personally I would avoid the 05 halfcrowns in high grade...even well known dealers have been fooled, believe me......stick to the 03 for the time being .. Apologies to all you techies out there....i am an old dog....still, I havent done too badly.....woof Please enlighten me. Altered dates are usually easy to spot but I wasn't aware that there were also copies. There was that 1905 shilling copy thread on here, where I posted up some big images of John's coin to view! Worth a look if you haven't seen it! I don't recall it, a search didn't find anything. http://www.predecimal.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6770&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1 It's not a bad copy! I'm sure some must exist without the bulging field 'blister' !

Its very scary....i suspect the Chinese have already sorted out the problems...the 1905 fake shillings are much easier to spot......personally I would avoid the 05 halfcrowns in high grade...even well known dealers have been fooled, believe me......stick to the 03 for the time being .. Apologies to all you techies out there....i am an old dog....still, I havent done too badly.....woof Please enlighten me. Altered dates are usually easy to spot but I wasn't aware that there were also copies. There was that 1905 shilling copy thread on here, where I posted up some big images of John's coin to view! Worth a look if you haven't seen it!

Crickey, no wonder you hit the road, Declan!

Yes, just a couple of quid, I'm afraid. I'd say keep it in your wallet as a talking piece, it's not everyone who finds a 200+ year-old artefact at work!

I know nothing at all about decimal coinage, but an undated £2 coin is likely to be of great interest, can you put any pictures up?

Its very scary....i suspect the Chinese have already sorted out the problems...the 1905 fake shillings are much easier to spot......personally I would avoid the 05 halfcrowns in high grade...even well known dealers have been fooled, believe me......stick to the 03 for the time being .. Apologies to all you techies out there....i am an old dog....still, I havent done too badly.....woof What's the weight of your's, Colin?

I use the 2x2 adhesive flips with windows, and keep the flips in little A5 Numis wallets, which have 6 2x2 slots per page. It really suits me, and a great 'read' in bed!

I've sure Dave will be able to add, based loosely on book sales, but how many micro-variety collectors do you think there are out there? I'm guessing the micro-gurus, Nick, Declan, Bob, & VS, could also have some ideas based upon their sense of competition for the coins? I'm speculating here, but I'm presuming the 20th century collectors are all using the DG Bible as their reference, with it being Davies and a bit more? I personally stop at the D numbers at present, but I do wonder at the rate of expansion into the Groom field?

I stand corrected Dave - 1922 penny on ebay- meant to bid on this but forgot. Flaw on both neck and ear are in the same postion as those on the 1918KN but this is a different obverse die. Must conclude that this micro variety is in fact a result of clashed dies You're right. The attached overlay shows (although not very clearly) that the features line up, so must be a die clash. Really interesting thread! Good image, Nick! Edit: Could have been very easy to forget to reverse the Britannia image first, before overlaying!

Incidentally, if you do get hold of any counterfeit Elizabeth coins, please do let me know, as I'd like to view a few more myself. The last counterfeit I bought was a bit of a disappointment as, despite it being listed as a contemporary counterfeit of an Elizabeth Threepence, and me winning it for .99p, it very disappointingly turned out to be a knackered, but genuine, halfgroat! I did resell it for a whopping £1.75 though! And one last thing...the 2 was under the E on mine, so your's is a very different coin, numismatically really interesting. Mine was dated 1572 (Ermine), so a very odd phenomenon!

Woodsman, don't worry too much about the hammered sixpence counterfeits, as below is the best example I've seen of a hammered sixpence so far, and the only date I tend to look a little more closely at. The milled Elizabeth sixpences however are much better done, and require a slightly better eye.

Not a rare coin but not in a decent condition either, particularly the obverse which is quite flat. This isn't an issue/date/type that is known for forgeries or modern copies, so suggest it is real. At a few Euros buy it, you can't lose. No, no convincing copies of sixpences at all (not hammered, at least), shillings and groats, mostly! Looks good to go to me! I must look on the PC tomorrow because I speculated on the basis of one coin that maybe somebody lost the 'L' punch on an obverse I had, and used a 2 instead! This is definitely a different obverse (I think...will check tomorrow), yet another 2 for L in Elizabeth? Edit: incidentally, when I spoke to Chris Comber about the 2 in legend, he believed it also to be a 2 (it's dimensions were exact to microns with the reverse 2 in date), and that he had never seen it before. This certainly looks like coin number 2? I've appreciate a good image if you're going for it woodsman, otherwise I'll have a go myself? Ha ha, should have kept my mouth shut then....!!!! Yeah, I'm going to bid on it alright, probably would have put in something if it was fake too as it's something I need to learn more about anyway. If I do end up with it I'll scan it and put up pics here anyway. Thanks for the opinions on it It's all your's, go for it! Just would appreciate an email of the best you can get, image wise, though!

Not a rare coin but not in a decent condition either, particularly the obverse which is quite flat. This isn't an issue/date/type that is known for forgeries or modern copies, so suggest it is real. At a few Euros buy it, you can't lose. No, no convincing copies of sixpences at all (not hammered, at least), shillings and groats, mostly! Looks good to go to me! I must look on the PC tomorrow because I speculated on the basis of one coin that maybe somebody lost the 'L' punch on an obverse I had, and used a 2 instead! This is definitely a different obverse (I think...will check tomorrow), yet another 2 for L in Elizabeth? Edit: incidentally, when I spoke to Chris Comber about the 2 in legend, he believed it also to be a 2 (it's dimensions were exact to microns with the reverse 2 in date), and that he had never seen it before. This certainly looks like coin number 2? I've appreciate a good image if you're going for it woodsman, otherwise I'll have a go myself?

Newly listed...'amazing gold crown of charles 1st' http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/amazing-gold-crown-of-charles-1st-lovely-golden-tone-very-collectable-/181145934398?pt=UK_Coins_BritishHammered_RL&hash=item2a2d239a3e

Thats a great business strategy by London Coins I must say...."We have a lot of business on the go so lets leave the phone off the hook so that we dont get any more..."....God forbid that any new clients get through to us whilst we're busy doing admin... You could always get them slabbed by CGS and sell them that way!

A whole new grading challenge! A lot of these must have slipped through as 'clipped' I'm thinking. I'm presuming this is a phenomenon consistent over a number of flans, and they've been on the button, weight wise? Could it be that the engravers were expecting larger flans, but the silver was just coming through too thick? There are 3 decent examples of the 1645 F7. Mine (ex-Lockett 2460), Carlyon-Britton (1921) lot 337 and Morrieson 534. All are well centred, but missing the reverse periphery. Attached is a less desirable example off Lloyd's site, which although off centre on the reverse, is still too big. Great coins...it doesn't take much to get me whoring with a different monarch or denomination! Thanks again, Rob!

Pray tell, I have a fake 1905 half crown and wish I knew what points it out as a fake. From what I gleaned on this very forum, there's a small break in the R of EDWARDVS that is the prime giveaway on many of them. But there may be other flaws on those from other sources? Are you certain that this only appears on fakes? I have seen more 1905 halfcrowns with the defect on the R of EDWARDVS, than without. The EF example in the Andrew Scothern collection (being auctioned by DNW later this month) also has the defect. The only giveaway of fakes that I'm aware of is the wonky I of QVI on the reverse. As I say, I only heard about this on this forum, and only in connection with fakes. There may well be genuine examples with the same defect, but I hadn't heard of them here! I pointed out on here some time ago the broken R but it was pooh poohed at the time. My fake is 0.900 silver so not quite sterling. It's got the wonky I. Thanks, Gary! Where did you get the .900 analysis from? Was it cheap?

A whole new grading challenge! A lot of these must have slipped through as 'clipped' I'm thinking. I'm presuming this is a phenomenon consistent over a number of flans, and they've been on the button, weight wise? Could it be that the engravers were expecting larger flans, but the silver was just coming through too thick?