Coinery

Excellent b'rap!

Now a straight 1564 date without the 4/2 is a rarish thing, but I wasn't expecting over £200! It's not THAT good, surely? 370696830493

I did like the sharp beading on this one, is it your's?

I'd love to document all the Liz forgeries that turn up, alongside the lifetime Elizabeth Project I'm working through at the moment! Have you seen the thread 'Elizabeth Die Study'? That's where I'm at currently, but recently buying anything suspicious, almost in the hope of discovering a new counterfeit to document! I think seuk's got G3 covered, we need something similar going on for all the areas, and then centralize it all

There are so many fakes on the Pre-decimal website that it makes me wonder whether Chris is the 'M' behind it all! Are you watching that Maltravers farthing Stuart? Yes I was, the one with different mintmarks ob & rev (blencoe)? It's apparently a common Everson type 3, so I didn't want to go beyond the £28 I think it was the last time I looked!

Yes, take it easy Ski, and have a good one!

Here's a better image...it's good, isn't it!

Many thanks for the BNJ link and your kind offer! Life's mad just now, what with a nearly-5 on tow, but I'd very much like to link up with you after Christmas, and talk coins, is it just the milled coinage of Elizabeth you are collecting? This coin is definitely a forgery, it doesn't test positive for silver, the obverse is even more of a giveaway, though it could've milled/hammered-out alright and provided as convincing an obverse as is the reverse. Have you any forgeries of Elizabeth coins you've collected along the way, I'd be really interested? Cripes, this was meant to be brief...speak soon, and thanks again!

Sounds like a great holiday! Sun, song, and a bit of coin shopping, perfect! As for your coins, not my area at all, though I'm sure someone will come through good for you!

Unquestionably. He has put through a load of hammered forgeries this year. His current James 1st shilling looks suspect too, irrespective of the weight given. Why would he be marking any up as forgeries at all, if he was intentionally trying to deceive? I mean a W3 obverse with a wrong year on the reverse doesn't sound to me like someone intentionally trying to kid??? He would've been better off putting this one through as a 'genuine' coin rather than listing it as a forgery, which he did? He could be innocent...just wanted to put another angle on it! Of course, he could be as crooked as a Uri Geller fork!

Now that's intriguing, I've just bought two forgeries from this seller (listed as such), so what's going on there?

Speak for yourself! Indeed! I spent a lot less than that on my last coin ... What, THAT old washer?

That's a superb bit of advice, and even better link, I didn't even know about that! Will be a useful website and service for everyone here!

Def small claims it! If you don't get your money back, you can at least rest in the knowledge that, for a very small outlay, you've driven a painfull nail into their credit rating! That'll piss them off, one way or another, for a good many years! You could then always sell the debt on for £15 to a 'reputable' company and buy a couple of bottles of wine! Every sip of that you could think on the number of pain-in-the-arse letters that will get sent to his parents, employers, and posh new girlfriends house!

Slightly impaired thus? Scratch across the bust, as I recall!

Can't remember who you're with, without logging in, but just about everyone I know who have hotmail accounts have been infiltrated in this way! I've sent endless emails to my elderly relatives, and senior medical consultants, offering quick fixes for penile dysfunctions! All good fun!

I'll send an email to Heritage later, I'm sure I read somewhere that they'll get raw coins slabbed for their auctions, could be wrong? The coin would be going just one way, then, with just one lot of post, and no import taxes! This is what the experiment's all about, I guess, finding these things out by hard-won experience! I'm going to send a couple of trial hammereds to them, so I need to 'mail them anyway!

Could always make it a £120 stake, I'll cover 1949 until the new year, if that's agreeable?

Nice little Halfgroat, that!

I'm still in, 6 people would be about right i'd say, 100 quid each, we'd have to pick the right coin though, agree with the silver, so need to keep the eyes open for something that could grade in the MS bracket 64-67 in our humble opinions. Maybe some of the dealers has something we could play with? What's wrong with the Cooke coin? Could be interesting to see how that grades and sells with Heritage? Regardless, I'm in for a share of the fun, if someone wants to take the reigns! I have to confess though that understanding how a grading company arrives at a particular number is tiring to me, and of little interest to the coins I'm playing with, but I'm sure I'd learn a 100 quid's worth from it ;-)

BNJ vol. XXVI pt.III (1951) plate XXII no.13 Thanks, Rob! Haven't spoke in a while...Compliments of the season to you! Advert looks good, was there an extra premium for being in the first couple of turns?

Hi, does anyone have an image, or know of one, for the obverse of Edward VI's early penny with the Henry VIII three-quarter facing bust? S2418

I REALLY like G3 copper, I have to say!

Does it water it down too much to go 4 ways? Who's going to co-ordinate it, get it slabbed and submitted at heritage? I'll come on board for the experiment! Don't forget all the other expenses, post, etc...post to slab, return post...post to states! Could be fun exposing the process however :)

Collected this Elizabeth I Milled Sixpence today (his picture, will edit in mine soon), and it's a very good colour, being only marginally greyer, but looking almost trace-lustre like! It rings nicely, and is about right for thickness. Weight is 2.68g. I'd love to know if anyone has, or knows of, a genuine coin with the obvious reverse die defects at the 3 o'clock arm, and the bottom right field? There are a number of coins out there with these flaws, one coming up on eBay in the next 24hrs, which doesn't look quite 100%, but who knows? The obverse of mine has major die-rotation, but all the outer bust lines meet the lettering in the same place, initially suggesting these may have been hammered or milled???