Coinery

There are so many fakes on the Pre-decimal website that it makes me wonder whether Chris is the 'M' behind it all! Are you watching that Maltravers farthing Stuart? Yes I was, the one with different mintmarks ob & rev (blencoe)? It's apparently a common Everson type 3, so I didn't want to go beyond the £28 I think it was the last time I looked!

Yes, take it easy Ski, and have a good one!

Here's a better image...it's good, isn't it!

Many thanks for the BNJ link and your kind offer! Life's mad just now, what with a nearly-5 on tow, but I'd very much like to link up with you after Christmas, and talk coins, is it just the milled coinage of Elizabeth you are collecting? This coin is definitely a forgery, it doesn't test positive for silver, the obverse is even more of a giveaway, though it could've milled/hammered-out alright and provided as convincing an obverse as is the reverse. Have you any forgeries of Elizabeth coins you've collected along the way, I'd be really interested? Cripes, this was meant to be brief...speak soon, and thanks again!

Sounds like a great holiday! Sun, song, and a bit of coin shopping, perfect! As for your coins, not my area at all, though I'm sure someone will come through good for you!

Unquestionably. He has put through a load of hammered forgeries this year. His current James 1st shilling looks suspect too, irrespective of the weight given. Why would he be marking any up as forgeries at all, if he was intentionally trying to deceive? I mean a W3 obverse with a wrong year on the reverse doesn't sound to me like someone intentionally trying to kid??? He would've been better off putting this one through as a 'genuine' coin rather than listing it as a forgery, which he did? He could be innocent...just wanted to put another angle on it! Of course, he could be as crooked as a Uri Geller fork!

I always post worlwide, bigger audience. Don't forget to tick the ebay.com visibility Is this the service eBay charge an extra fee for now (10p I think?)? I tried this for a couple of month's about 9 months ago (about 140 BIN&BO in total over the 2 months), and didn't find any difference in sales. Have you had a better experience with it?

Now that's intriguing, I've just bought two forgeries from this seller (listed as such), so what's going on there?

Speak for yourself! Indeed! I spent a lot less than that on my last coin ... What, THAT old washer?

That's a superb bit of advice, and even better link, I didn't even know about that! Will be a useful website and service for everyone here!

Def small claims it! If you don't get your money back, you can at least rest in the knowledge that, for a very small outlay, you've driven a painfull nail into their credit rating! That'll piss them off, one way or another, for a good many years! You could then always sell the debt on for £15 to a 'reputable' company and buy a couple of bottles of wine! Every sip of that you could think on the number of pain-in-the-arse letters that will get sent to his parents, employers, and posh new girlfriends house!

Slightly impaired thus? Scratch across the bust, as I recall!

Can't remember who you're with, without logging in, but just about everyone I know who have hotmail accounts have been infiltrated in this way! I've sent endless emails to my elderly relatives, and senior medical consultants, offering quick fixes for penile dysfunctions! All good fun!

I'll send an email to Heritage later, I'm sure I read somewhere that they'll get raw coins slabbed for their auctions, could be wrong? The coin would be going just one way, then, with just one lot of post, and no import taxes! This is what the experiment's all about, I guess, finding these things out by hard-won experience! I'm going to send a couple of trial hammereds to them, so I need to 'mail them anyway!

Could always make it a £120 stake, I'll cover 1949 until the new year, if that's agreeable?

Nice little Halfgroat, that!

I'm still in, 6 people would be about right i'd say, 100 quid each, we'd have to pick the right coin though, agree with the silver, so need to keep the eyes open for something that could grade in the MS bracket 64-67 in our humble opinions. Maybe some of the dealers has something we could play with? What's wrong with the Cooke coin? Could be interesting to see how that grades and sells with Heritage? Regardless, I'm in for a share of the fun, if someone wants to take the reigns! I have to confess though that understanding how a grading company arrives at a particular number is tiring to me, and of little interest to the coins I'm playing with, but I'm sure I'd learn a 100 quid's worth from it ;-)

Hi, does anyone have an image, or know of one, for the obverse of Edward VI's early penny with the Henry VIII three-quarter facing bust? S2418

BNJ vol. XXVI pt.III (1951) plate XXII no.13 Thanks, Rob! Haven't spoke in a while...Compliments of the season to you! Advert looks good, was there an extra premium for being in the first couple of turns?

I REALLY like G3 copper, I have to say!

Does it water it down too much to go 4 ways? Who's going to co-ordinate it, get it slabbed and submitted at heritage? I'll come on board for the experiment! Don't forget all the other expenses, post, etc...post to slab, return post...post to states! Could be fun exposing the process however :)

Sorry, tell a lie. It is MS67 after all ~ was looking at the wrong bit. The right one is here Extraordinary. And it's sitting at $625 thats 385 GBP crazy coin world I'd have said £300 absolute tops, and even that would be generous given its appearance!!! Clearly a business opportunity. Buy any unattractive big numbered slab at fair value and consign via Heritage. Could work wonders for the UK's balance of payments. On the question of the grade though, I still wonder how they get to MS67 with the obvious rim mark. The coin isn't heavy enough to have suffered the defect falling into the hopper. It has to be post Mint damage. I think the business opportunity comes from buying a raw coin, getting it slabbed by PCGS etc then shipping it over to heritage for a 4 fold increase in price. Everyone's a winner, i get 4x what i paid and an American gets a slabbed coin In the Spink 2013, back page, it gives you advice how to join PCGS Europe and have your coins graded/slabbed in Paris where their new office is. I may just do that and get some coins slabbed and shipped out to Heritage www.pcgseurope.com you have to join the collectors club to be able to submit the coins yourself any time of the year, you also get the first 8 coins slabbed free if you join the diamond club, 4 coins for the lowest entry level Heritage are the way to go! Elizabeth I slabs sell for a silly amount over there! Whenever I'm searching google images for particular coins, if I ever find a Heritage image, I always 'go in' for a look, just for the $$$ wow factor! Don't Heritage actually offer the slabbing process as part of their service, or did I just dream that one day?

What a muppet, only just dawned it's the slab grips! Doh! I'm really going to have to give up with this iPhone grading/identification lark!

I like that, Peter! OK, wanted...E2 shillings please!

I guess you would expect it to be well up there on grade alone, taking into account the ribbon tie is only weak-strike, likely as a result of metal being pressed elsewhere, due to the rim defects (is it ex mount)? I'm presuming they mutilated it on account of the defects?