Coinery

So how would it be possible to distinguish between the pattern and the proof coin, with all devices being equal? Is that the main enquiry?

Many thanks for this! I too carried out a similar exercise with the LC past sales’ list and, as you point out, the differences are spectacularly small for a phenomenal increase in final value. The way these coins wear and are struck is many, with the example I shared having a much better fringe and front hair band than many GEF examples, confusing the variables of strike, wear, and die condition, much more than usual. I think you’re right re eye-appeal in these middling to better grades, it’s the best guide in the end.

Many thanks 🙏

@pokal02 & @VickySilver much appreciated! VS when you say takes it down to EF, I’m guessing that’s a typo for GEF?

Thanks for the input, ‘Peck.’ The feel for grade overall appears to be around NEF...I wonder if it just shakes shy of that? I could of course be blinded by the light of some of the examples that have rocketed in auction the last couple of years, I’m not sure? What’s your thoughts?

Available on eBay or PM me here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284177682085

A fuller description for any that should chance along: 3 key stone books for those interested in the gold and silver coinage of Elizabeth I - The Hammered Silver Coins Produced at the Tower Mint During the Reign of Elizabeth I by Brown Comber and Wilkinson. Great condition hardback with a small number of pencil annotations. - 1988 BNJ vol 58 with key article on the portrait punches used on Elizabeth I coinage by BCW + other major articles - superb condition. - 1989 BNJ vol 59 with key 29-page article on the gold coinage of Elizabeth I by BCW - superb condition. Images of the BNJ inner content is uploaded on the listing for those interested in the other main articles.

It’s really interesting to hear you say this because I initially thought it could be too marked to be a great coin. Strange how your perception changes in the light of others’ opinions...I can’t see it at all now...maybe it’s all the ‘other’ crowns I’ve looked at in the previous 24hrs that’s done it, I really don’t know? Re the prices you suggest I think that’s true from all I’ve been seeing...I wonder if we’ll soon be seeing these and indeed all collectibles crashing in the aftermath of the long-term recovery from Covid-19? I’m sure that question has been put to the forum endlessly this past year?

Thanks for the insights, John, much appreciated...especially to hear that it outperforms some of the HCs in similar grade, that’s really interesting.

in case anyone here is interested https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284178345697

These are now sold...many thanks!

And finally... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284178370124 Accepting reasonable offers from forum members on all books listed!

Many thanks, gents...appreciate your input.

OK gents I’ve ended the listing. The postage is £1.99 (second class large letter) to each of you and I was hoping to make a fiver from selling the 3 books. @bagerap are you happy with £1 for each catalogue plus postage, so £3.99? @mrbadexample and a fiver to you Sir! No pressure on either of you, I can easily relist it with a click 😊 If you’re happy, I’ll send an addressed envelope with the book/books and you can send cash by return.

£6 delivered for all 3 if you transfer direct to my account?

I forgot to mention that I’m accepting reasonable offers from forum members on all books listed!

I forgot to mention that I’m accepting reasonable offers from forum members on all books listed!

Another one if anyone needs a copy: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284178354553 This item has now been sold - many thanks!

What’s the history of this one, Paulus?

Happy New Year everyone. See a good number of these around. Contemporary I’d think, certainly not Crown coinage. eBay 353313505402

Found it...it’s the same one he had for sale early last year. http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/13607-counterfeit-elizabeth-i-halfpenny/?tab=comments#comment-190324

Just for clarification, when I say ‘I’ve seen a good number of these around,’ I mean a good number of types of counterfeit E1 halfpennies. There may also be a lot of this particular type around, I don’t know for sure because I haven’t had my eye on it for a couple of years! This one’s for sale by John Newman...IIRC he’s previously had other counterfeit (contemporary or otherwise) hammered for sale, and I think the idea was at the time that they were pretty obvious and he ought to know better. I’ll see if I can track that conversation down...otherwise I’ll have to retract this paragraph.

Lord, I just reread that entire thread 🥴

No other words for it...bloody hell, Paulus!