Coinery

On the excellent, but dreaded iPhone, so could look different on a larger screen, but those veins don't look right to me! Are they a little too deep, comparative to the rest of the detail? Also, they look a tad too linear and out of alignment with the leaf IMO...check them against another example, I can't right now! Could be wrong, but it doesn't look straight to me, if you'll pardon the pun!

I'm sure it's a back-handed compliment that further confirmation has been sought here, AFTER an in-hand validation by Spink!

Many thanks for the update seuk!

There is also a thread on here, highlighting a major American TPGC's slab with the wrong denomination on it...no water for me either!

Perhaps you shouldn't bring him to the forum, Azda! I still can't believe there was an underbid of £80! Unbelievable!

it's just occurred to me, I think it's only the title you can't change in the latter stages, you can update the description at any time, if I'm not mistaken?

So he's still bullshitting the sale, then! It's not even like the whole things got a little bit out of control and he doesn't quite know what to do...he's still wilfully winding punters in! He who lives by the sword, and all that! How do you know the number of watchers, Sherlock?

Could be an interesting conclusion to the thread! Ask him if he wants mine for a fiver, that is when you strike up a 'conversation' with him?

Dropping the buyer a link to this thread would be class! Winning bidder so far is fhharrington 5th page of FB How do you do that? An element of deduction My dear Dr Watson. The user has bought from him before. I checked the high bidder initials and score, it was 56 when i was checking, it then changed to 57 so it had to be one and the same. The hidden names initials in the bidders list fit the ebay name along with score after trawling through his FB No s**t Sherlock, that's clever! You could've been John's Jam Sandwich partner, and talked coins all day long! That's a £50+ piece of pewter now, with 3hrs still to go! Might make a nice VF price! It can go to 200 quids worth of pewter, it won't sell Now i'm winning the bid You got a special crash-n-burn account I take it?

Dropping the buyer a link to this thread would be class! Winning bidder so far is fhharrington 5th page of FB How do you do that? An element of deduction My dear Dr Watson. The user has bought from him before. I checked the high bidder initials and score, it was 56 when i was checking, it then changed to 57 so it had to be one and the same. The hidden names initials in the bidders list fit the ebay name along with score after trawling through his FB No s**t Sherlock, that's clever! You could've been John's Jam Sandwich partner, and talked coins all day long! That's a £50+ piece of pewter now, with 3hrs still to go! Might make a nice VF price!

Dropping the buyer a link to this thread would be class! Winning bidder so far is fhharrington 5th page of FB How do you do that?

Dropping the buyer a link to this thread would be class!

I have emailed him twice. The first time telling him it was a pewter replica. The 2nd time asking him why he hadn't added this to the listing. Reported to ebay who do diddly. I reported it this morning too! He's a 'top' seller with a lot of feedback, bet they ignore it! What really annoyed me about this one was the blatant 'what is it'? You mean he couldn't actually read ELIZABETH on the edge of the coin and, putting two and two together (ie the date), realise it probably isn't Elizabeth II? I've messaged him: "INTERESTING COIN DATED 1562 - WHAT IS IT?" - it's a replica coin, composition uncertain, but the thickness tells me it may be lead or pewter. I used to be a dealer and was taken in by one of these in the early days, and had to refund the sale price to the buyer. Since then I've become expert at spotting them. Yours is almost identical to the item I had. I'd recommend you either withdraw the item and relist it, or amend the description to reflect the fact it's a replica. Hopefully he will take the hint, but don't hold your breath... I'm turning blue already, Peck! We should definately have a dedicated thread for OBVIOUS ebay fakes, which has all members emailing simultanteously! From a specially dedicated ebay account, goes without saying of course! I think the fake-meisters would soon tire of it! I actually got a polite, but rather incoherent reply, to the effect it was too late to change the listing with only 12 hours to go!!! Looks like eBay are going to turn a blind eye and let some sucker get suckered! Over 5000 feedback, forgone conclusion really!

The obverse is better than the reverse I think!

Not quite sure how the story goes, but the Caesar coin Jesus held up and asked 'whose head is on this, let Ceasar have what is his...'! That would likely be the world's most valuable coin (I wonder what the Vatican could cough-up for that?), and to think one of you might have it in your collection.

I have emailed him twice. The first time telling him it was a pewter replica. The 2nd time asking him why he hadn't added this to the listing. Reported to ebay who do diddly. I reported it this morning too! He's a 'top' seller with a lot of feedback, bet they ignore it! What really annoyed me about this one was the blatant 'what is it'? You mean he couldn't actually read ELIZABETH on the edge of the coin and, putting two and two together (ie the date), realise it probably isn't Elizabeth II? I've messaged him: "INTERESTING COIN DATED 1562 - WHAT IS IT?" - it's a replica coin, composition uncertain, but the thickness tells me it may be lead or pewter. I used to be a dealer and was taken in by one of these in the early days, and had to refund the sale price to the buyer. Since then I've become expert at spotting them. Yours is almost identical to the item I had. I'd recommend you either withdraw the item and relist it, or amend the description to reflect the fact it's a replica. Hopefully he will take the hint, but don't hold your breath... I'm turning blue already, Peck! We should definately have a dedicated thread for OBVIOUS ebay fakes, which has all members emailing simultanteously! From a specially dedicated ebay account, goes without saying of course! I think the fake-meisters would soon tire of it!

I think you're missing a very important point here! I've just entered the number of the 1902 florin into the PCGS website and found nothing other than, simply put, 'yes, there is a Matt proof 1902 florin out there somewhere that's been authenticated by us'! Nothing more! It doesn't mean the one for sale here (and I'm not saying it isn't) is the one PCGS are talking about. So, hypothetically speaking here, I've just smashed open my lovely, top-graded, Victoria Gothic Crown, and put the crown in my collection because I like it, and then photographed the slip, which I've now got on an A4 sheet duplicated 100 times, all with the same number on it! I've already been in touch with Mr Pachouli (known to his friends as Dave), and he's got me a hundred nice Gothics for £10k and thrown in a hundred hologrammed PCGS slabs for good measure! I've already got good feedback and, hey presto, another 100 satisfied customers have just left me some more, each having checked the number on their slab against the PCGS database! ££££££££££££££££££££££ As I say, what's needed is TOP quality photography, which actually allows people to check that the coin in their holder is actually the one that the TPGC put in there! I don't mean photographs for the purpose of buying the coin, or making it easier to sell in the future, I mean photos that are clear enough to make a positive identification of the coin in your slab against the one on the database!

I have emailed him twice. The first time telling him it was a pewter replica. The 2nd time asking him why he hadn't added this to the listing. Reported to ebay who do diddly. I reported it this morning too! He's a 'top' seller with a lot of feedback, bet they ignore it! What really annoyed me about this one was the blatant 'what is it'? You mean he couldn't actually read ELIZABETH on the edge of the coin and, putting two and two together (ie the date), realise it probably isn't Elizabeth II?

WHAT a cheeky bugger! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTERESTING-COIN-DATED-1562-WHAT-IS-IT-/180954468623?pt=UK_Antiques_Other_RL&hash=item2a21ba110f

That is the big problem with slabbing companies that don't insist on good quality images! CGS are as bad, a lot of their images are just token gestures, totally underexposed and blurred at times, as good as useless. Any 'jasmine' slabbers would surely be trawling the TPGC sites looking for the unidentifiable images and using those slab numbers on their own slabs, wouldn't they? I think slab buyers, and slabbers, should begin insisting on quality images, especially when dealing with milled coinage!

Stunning coins, I so wish I had enough time and money to get involved in everything...I'd love a decent greek and roman collection too!

Hello! Thanks for the response, appreciate it. Figured out a way to compress a couple of pictures of the date and posted them a few moments ago. As mentioned in the prior post, we are waiting on a USB magnifier. Once it arrives we will take better pictures of the date and post them. Yes, we also agree with you on Rayner over Spink. Since we are new, is the upload limit per picture or is it an overall per account? Have a great evening! Neither. The limit is per post, irrespective of how many pictures. For each new post the 150k applies again. No limit per account. It's an "erb".mannnn. If you like Oriental/Asian food you've had some. Ahhhhh sooooo, Stuart thinks the 1850 shilling pic i uploaded is Chinese? Very cryptic, but i'd love to hear the theory why..... Stuart may be mistaken... patchouli oil was the hippie fragrance of choice of the 1960s. Now if he'd said MSG or jasmine or lychee or egg foo yung, I could have understood it! Hey dudes, what's going on? Patchouli is still a hippie fragrance of choice, I think it's amazing! It's still very much used, blended with sweet almond oil, as a slippery soup to rub all over your beloved in the loving hours! Rumour did have it, Dave, that you were yourself partaking in said slippery rubdown, pre your image post! I think I might just have to join a circus, nobody gets my humour on here!

I personally thought the fast cycling was useful as an aid to spotting the differences in a more dramatic way. Though I also agree with Peckris, that a slower cycle would then be beneficial for a closer look! So maybe one of each would be the very best kind of presentation for these things? A second big welcome to the forum, Numidan, some interesting new approaches to looking at things, superb!

I can smell patchouli!

Sure. If only CGS slabbed hammered coins you could have it population listed too! Oh, the prestige of it, just imagine those immortal words..."finest known 1/1"