Coinery

Are we talking pennies here? The 1876H is commonly the narrow date variety, whereas the wide date is quite rare. Freeman has R9 for the wide date and R5 for the narrow date, so the wide date is considerably rarer: Haw, haw, what a lovely armoury you've got there! Being able to haul up a couple of images like that is what it's all about! I salute you!

In all fairness, if you've bought a 'lot' described as 'mixed grade,' how could you fairly go back to the auctioneers and say you've been misled? I think you should most definitely treat it as a learning curve, and recoup what you can without subscribing to the weaknesses you've been disappointed by in your recent auction. As you say, you've only spent hundreds, and from what Peckris is saying, all is probably not lost...next time you will be wiser! The auctions most definitely are, and most definitely are not, the places to get a bargain (hope that statement helps?)! I still salute you for getting straight into the auctions!

I remember Peter once saying you can sometimes decipher sellers' 'my refs' to calculate what a seller's paid, and make offers accordingly! A good tactic, but I wonder whether sometimes reverse psychology can also be applied? This seller looks for all the world to have paid £103.52 (I think it was) for their coin, would that push bidders to a higher bid? The coin's worth nothing like that! I think it should be seen as read that if someone posts numbers, a URL would always be appreciated! Especially for all those that keep in touch on their ayePhones! ;)251135532783

Hi William, and welcome! Whilst I did in an earlier thread today complain about your exact scenario, I do equally sympathise and understand the variables and difficulties of grading/describing coins for distant buyers, especially when the lots can run into thousands, and they run 4+ auctions annually! When you consider 'perfection' could one day mean slabbed coins or watchdog ethics and 'accountabilty' being applied to, not just coins, but to all 'antique-type' auctions, we can hopefully appreciate it would be a shame, and would undo the last suvivor of the 'wit' principle! You either need to be there, or distant- bid, taking account of the variables! I'd say sell through eBay, with integrity, is the way to go! I don't think we should buy dud/fake/imperfect coins, and then equally deceive! Better to take it on the chin and not repeat! Keep posting William! Everyone here craves intelligent debate. Also, well done you for striking out into the auction houses as a newbie!

Queen Anne 1711 Sixpence Terrible grading Blimey, that's shocking. Just had a look at his feedback - look at the state of the obverse of the 1917 florin he claimed was FDC. Even his eBay avatar looks shocked!

That would be just a tad too spooky!

Queen Anne 1711 Sixpence Terrible grading I think a Trebor has more lustre! Dundee? Had a couple of nights out in Dundee, my best man is from Dundee! Kev Thomson, please tell me you don't know him?

An absolute bugger to get to full stop, unless you're Paulus, of course! I enjoyed the auction, very friendly and personable! My only warning would be their grading, especially the higher grades and UNC. I didn't get a chance to look at EVERYthing when I was there, so took a punt at a few late UNC items, thinking I'd be safe! Some were EF at best! I also bought a number of coins which were a grade over in their descriptions, plus discovered some pretty major flaws that could of been mentioned (I did bid accordingly on these, however)! What did I learn? You either have to BE there AND look at absolutely everything you intend to bid on, or distant bid a full grade below! Really nice people, worth the trek to be there! Attractive buyes premium of 5% too!

Dave is a Scot as was my motherinlaw She sent me to Coventry as I wasn't good enough for her daughter....still banged her. just the daughter and the current Mrs Peter My best man (we had kilts at the wedding, and button holes made by your's truly of Thistles and Roses) and good friend is a Scot, I keep telling him he needs studying!

i didnt know that............why so? They are unconventional denominations and the series is not extensive enough to make an interesting collection. You are restricted to two basic obverses and reverse types in three denominations including the 9d patterns, all within a 6 year period. You could expand it with the varieties of the number of acorns and leaf positions as listed by Davis, but even allowing for all the proofs in the different metals, you only have about 3 dozen coins. A shame really because some of them are quite rare. Three dozen? That sounds bliss to me!

Respectful Post! I would've left a blank acknowledgement if the forum system permitted it, and would've preferred to! There was always a '.' I guess! I remember getting excited about Krishnamurti about 4 years after he passed, I'm getting closer! Thoughts with his family!

my annual check up is not due until december but i like the coin......so is the considered opinion here that its been retooled/enhanced ????. I think the considered opinion is that it's NOT tooled/enhanced! I jumped on the thread late at night on an iPhone, not wishing for any potential issues to go unnoticed on Paulus' behalf, as he may have been making a last minute bidding decision etc...call it spontaneity if you will. As a comparison, I was at a live auction in Clevedon this year, and emergency posted on this forum, 15 minutes before the lot came up, so these things can happen! However, as I said earlier, and I'm in the minority (singularly) on this, I feel awkward about the veins. Enough that I wouldn't buy it out-of-hand myself, and I'm generally quite chancy! Ironically, if it was a poor picture I'd probably give it a go, simply because I would be in the playing field of the bold! Hey ho!

At first glance they appeared deeper than I would've expected, and a little 'awkward'! They still 'feel' awkward for me, however, the consensus is most definitely that the coin's a goer! Are you going for it Paulus?

Will get the laptop out in the morning to access my pictures, I'm pretty sure the H8 groat's a duffer too, but will have to check! Mine was a pretty good copy, about the right thickness and also had a rose privy mark, just can't remember if it was muled or not? Exact match, the groat's a duffer too! All gone Dah, dah!

Will get the laptop out in the morning to access my pictures, I'm pretty sure the H8 groat's a duffer too, but will have to check! Mine was a pretty good copy, about the right thickness and also had a rose privy mark, just can't remember if it was muled or not? Exact match, the groat's a duffer too!

You too, NewShillingCollector! Keep posting, and welcome aboard! Best regards, Stuart

dream on........ You never know, though, he hasn't got over 5000 good feedback like the Elizabeth pewter 3D seller, who eBay did NOT deal with, despite at least two separate reports!

Will get the laptop out in the morning to access my pictures, I'm pretty sure the H8 groat's a duffer too, but will have to check! Mine was a pretty good copy, about the right thickness and also had a rose privy mark, just can't remember if it was muled or not?

A back-handed compliment is a compliment diguised as an insult!!! Us trying to insult people on the forum??? Absolutely not!!! It was recommended to us that we post the information and the pictures on this forum. We are not "posters" and did not even know the forum existed until a few days prior to our posting here. I have responded to your PM!

Precisely!

On the excellent, but dreaded iPhone, so could look different on a larger screen, but those veins don't look right to me! Are they a little too deep, comparative to the rest of the detail? Also, they look a tad too linear and out of alignment with the leaf IMO...check them against another example, I can't right now! Could be wrong, but it doesn't look straight to me, if you'll pardon the pun!

I'm sure it's a back-handed compliment that further confirmation has been sought here, AFTER an in-hand validation by Spink!

Many thanks for the update seuk!

There is also a thread on here, highlighting a major American TPGC's slab with the wrong denomination on it...no water for me either!

Perhaps you shouldn't bring him to the forum, Azda! I still can't believe there was an underbid of £80! Unbelievable!