Coinery

Just out of interest, is it a single known example?

FYI there are a few toy coins coming up for sale in The Coinery auction 16th February.

Hi Paddy, sorry I missed this one! Well from a quick look it’s a Calais legend (Villa Calis) to the reverse and an annulet issue so screaming Henry VI annulet issue halfpenny, and a likely mule? Is it still of enough interest to you for me to dig deeper?

Thanks, Jerry. As is said @Circulation penny collecto, Guy and I are not quite the same…by quite a large sum I should imagine?

Well that’s some claim CPC and phenomenal to have you on here and in touch with us all! Wow, without being overbearingly starstruck, that’s quite something, and great news to hear these Great British coins are still gracing a UK collection. 🙏

Could’ve been given to a lover named Anna by a gentleman with the surname Jack? My grandmother was Evelyn Jack, so not her

That may have been a love charm with a soldered loop just above Jack? Maybe this kind of thing?

You have the correct date, making it 2nd coinage, 3rd bust, mm Lis - S2654 Here’s a couple examples of what I was mentioning earlier re completed item on eBay

£50-£70 depending upon who’s around on the day! You have to appreciate it’s really hard to price ANY coin. Even in big auction houses, coins can go for double or half their values. I think the best way to value coins in these grades is to carry out a search on eBay - not to see what crazy prices people are asking, but to click on ‘completed items’ in the filter and see what people have actually been prepared to pay for certain types and grades. It’s an eye-opener!

Yes, 1st coinage shilling with bust 2 and thistle mintmark S2646 👍

This is an example of crown and key over crown on gold!

I can’t see any evidence of this being “key over crown,” it just looks like a plain key to me (maybe a close-up of the obverse key would clarify?). I don’t know of any web resource, you might have to start buying a book or two. Here’s the mint marks for James I taken from the SCBC, which would be a good start! You can buy this for around £30 + postage from a dealer on here if you want one? https://rpcoins.co.uk/collections/catalogues-s-z/products/coin-of-england-2025-pre-decimal

Mintmark is the key, as you say, making it 2nd coinage and dating it 1609-10 It looks like the 5th bust to me so S2656 In that grade I’d say £40-£50

What? NO interest? O’ baaaah blinkin’ humbug, Mr Peckris!

Nice bit of history! Quite shocking that such a thing could happen, and the strength of feeling that 60,000 could gather together like that, without social media! IMHO both coins are again in the £25-£30 bracket.

Ahhhh, campanology…I had a spell of this in my local village during my twenties. Such a wonderful and ancient sound, it makes my soul sing to hear those time-honoured peels across the English countryside.

It is…but it’s totally unnecessary I think to see the tone carelessly removed from the high spots, especially for a coin of such prestige! I see it all the time on lesser coins, where I can imagine someone has ‘pulled’ a coin across a surface to pick it up, rather than ‘hook’ it up (more difficult to do with hammered, of course). I discovered, quite by accident, that one of the worst offenders is the grey ‘neutral’ boards that come with cameras nowadays, they are comparable to 1000 grit sandpaper when a coin is dragged off it. Many coins are horribly scarred this way (I attach an example).

Apologies I missed this one! Seeing this up close, now confirms for me it’s a contemporary counterfeit! The lis, lions, mintmark and lettering are all wrong for type. It would’ve turned numismatics on its head if it was 1571 with eglantine All the same it’s probably worth the same as the genuine article, and much more interesting on account of it.

Agree with Copper.

Portcullis mintmark on the Elizabeth sixpence…not the commonest of the Elizabeth 6d marks and a better grade 👍

That is to say £15-£30ish each, not all three together Top to bottom £28-30 £20 £15-20 And as Sword says, not junk, rather a great bit of history.

Yes, both are Elizabeth sixpences. The 1591 is mintmark Hand, and the other is mintmark Eglantine, which should date it 1573-1577. Your photos aren’t clear enough to see what’s going on with the last digit of the date, but it shouldn’t be 1571, as that would make it mintmark castle? A clearer close up of the date and mintmark would be interesting. edit: all three sixpences in the £15-£30 bracket

Just looking back over your last 5 or so coins, I don’t think any of them are worth more than £20. A great and varied selection, however, and it sounds like you’re enjoying the research into them.

I was just going to say…Ed III Halfgroat, the obverse congestion of devices the decider for me but, as said, it’s clipped. The second is a class 10 Edward I Penny 1300-1310. This class merges with the coinage of Edward II (1307) a little bit, though numismatically his coinage is agreed to commence at class 11.

I obviously have my own areas of loyal interest, but just thought of an idea for myself and, of course, others who struggle with the big question 'where to start' with collecting! One of the issues I've noted with newcomer questions, time and time again, is that of what to collect? 'Do I collect bronze, copper, silver, pennies, crowns, etc.?' Well, I've an idea, founded upon the other great collection struggle, that of having a decent collection quickly, which I'm sure is part of the reason we all end up with a useless pile of bullion once we settle into quality collecting! OK, so here's my strategy, and recommendation for those who are unsure where to start! Collect denomination year sets, and learn all about Bronze, Copper, Silver, CuNi, Gold even, and discover varieties, errors, so on, etc, etc,! As an example, I thought I'd snaffle an easy 1901 set off eBay, which started with a very cheap UNC penny, followed by a bargain 6D! The HC, HP, Farthing, and shilling, happened over a couple of months, with maybe a little bit of reselling to get these right! However, I now concede that I have watched quite some time for a 'right-priced' florin and the gold, and happily accept I will have to visit auctions or dealers to acquire these in top grades which, incidentally, is also part of the fun! Now, I presently don't have the resources to pursue the rest of my 1901 set, but I do have a small amount with which to watch eBay and snaffle the occasional pretty thing 321275869721 and start the whole process over again! So over the next few months I'll be keeping an eye on 1886, looking for a steal, and will inevitably stumble upon the denominations of that year that I'll have to seek out again at the dealers, fairs, or auctions! It keeps the fires burning, and keeps the grey matter and reading going forth! It excites me to snaffle some cheap things and begin another set of something, whilst I can't afford the harder pieces! Key point is, it's a manageable way of finding out what you like, and encourages visits to all the main collection resources! For me personally I quite like it all...so a copper, big silver, little silver, and piece of gold offends me not in the least! Happy daze!