Coinery

You'll do well on eBay ;-) If your coin's as good as the one you've posted, I'll buy it! I rather suspect it isn't! Good luck with the collecting, you'll never come to the end of it!

Yes, looks like it. These are actually much rarer than the pennies and as a result rather more valuable, and yes that is pretty much as good as they get. I sold one in NEF for £75 last year. I managed to pick up a GEF, could possibly be AU, one of these for £100 last year. I've only seen 1 for sale since. Do you all think the Spink's catalogue is a true reflection of this type's value?

So I guess you will have noticed by now that he adds buckets of saturation to his pictures! As I said, I was pleased with my coins, but could see the 'artistic' enhancements were somewhat of an exaggeration of the actual colouration and tone. Fortunately, it hid no uglies in mine, and the 1902 penny (item number here somewhere) turned out to be a good replacement for the one I had. I did email him in March to ask him about the photography, and he told me he has the photos done by someone else!

I bought this 320832419613 off the same seller recently, really pleased with it! Common type, no big profit in it, but very nice on the eye I have to say.

I think you'll find this is a threepence with the eglantine 1577/5 Which is BCW Threepence EG-2:i1

Unusual approach! 251042472059 Not a good buy for hookers, apparently!

More than a bit of a coincidence? But I guess the purchase/removal could just be a routine business thing, Ed VII is popular!

Yes, at £60 it's thereabouts on price i'd say, though he's a tad strong in the grading, I think! Reverse front paw of lion, and hair and beard detail of bust, all looks a little bit beyond near UNC to me. Without the in-hand experience, I wouldn't even buy at EF (£60 would be my very top price on this one), i'd be trying to catch it for something under that, really, hoping to have a nice surprise, maybe?

I guess though that most people who are in the market for one of these, really ought to know about the American grading system? I guess we'll all be hand led and spoon fed once eBay collaborates with the grading companies. It'll be like listing a mobile phone soon, where you HAVE to check various boxes to even get it on...unless you want to list it as a fobile moan or something. :-) He actually told me it was joint SEVENTH finest......WOHOOO lol.......A bargain then Probably from a population numbering 8 examples? Joint last, then! :-)

Perhaps I shouldn't really use the word sh*te, as a coin's a coin, regardless of its perceived monetary/collectable value! I can't even bin a Fine Edward VII penny...Instead I desperately hope someone will give me 49p for it on eBay, just to free my conscience! :-)

Just took a quick peek at CGS, they've even got 165 DECIMAL pennies slabbed out there! Somebody is even the proud owner of a 2010 1p. They have got an awful lot of SH*TE bolstering their 'population reports'.

Nobody in the whole wide world would pay money themselves to slab the coins you can actually see available slabbed by CGS, I think they slabbed a whole load of low-value coinage for some other grand plan (numbers slabbed possibly etc???). There are endless coins slabbed well under the cost of slabbing! I agree that cgs should know these things, but I've even had a coin returned with a so-called CGS variety (no serif on 1 of date) dated incorrectly, by 4 years...1 and 5, not an excusable 3 and 8, or 8 and 9 etc.

Couldn't you just throw away an old pair of trainers and keep the collection? The space would be comparable, surely? You should definitely find a way to keep your collection if you'd really like to!

It looks brass in colour and certainly isn't bronze. I don't know whether it's been tested though. My verdict is taken from the TPG label on the slab (by CGS). Shame it's been slabbed - the weight would be a clincher. Good point. I checked the CGS record for the slab but no weight is recorded. I'll bet the plastic slab, rubber insert and labels, are relatively consistent in weight, would it be worth asking cgs if they'd mind weighing up a couple of blanks and labels for you to check? Failing that, there must be a few people on here who have slabbed pennies about? It would be interesting to gather some weights in to check consistency (I presume most 20th century pennies would be a consistent high-grade [weight] if they're slabbed). If there was very little difference, it could be a simple matter of then weighing your slab and calculating the variation...maybe?????! How many grams difference would there be between a brass and bronze penny?

Thanks, Peter, I know it's always pressure-on being the first to post a grade on something like this! Much appreciated!

I'd very much like grading opinions on the below shilling, and also whether anyone thinks this could possibly be a Tun over Hand on the reverse? I've recently bought a copy of Brown, Comber and Wilkinson, from Rob, allowing me to attribute this coin as follows (narrowing it down to two possibilities, depending on the outcome of the Tun over Hand question)... This is obviously a 1592-4 6th coinage (bust 6B) shilling. But, using Elizabeth I by BCW to fine-tune a little, we have 3 Tun reverses (and two Tun obverses) to navigate around. I've reduced it down to two reverses, on account mine has the unrepaired lis (46) and lions (designated73), leaving the last remaining identifier the privy mark - namely, is this a Tun over Hand or not? Not surprisingly, the plain Tun is the most common pairing with the obverse here. So, it's either: BCW TN-2:a (tun over hand rev) or, BCW TN-2:b1 (commoner variety) Any help, or better images of tun over hand would be appreciated. Thanks to all for the help in getting my images up here!

Anyone fancy a stab at the grade, I'd really appreciate the opinions? I always, always, overdo it with hammered! If I have a little breeze through a couple of auction catalogues (London Coins a favourite), I always end up shocking myself...their grading mostly being under my guess by half a grade! My GVF is always their VF, and so on! It is a good way of adjusting your eyes however. I'm thinking GOOD FINE myself...any ideas? I promise I'll not ask for grading advice ever again! ;-)

I find many of Bucks Coins' photos seem to have a milky white softness about them ... Also, his background is PINK! So unless he's a particular fan of that colour, I'd say, from what little knowledge I have on the medium, that his white balance is all to cock anyway, meaning the coin could be toffee, dark chocolate, or After Eight's, for all we know :-)

I guess though that most people who are in the market for one of these, really ought to know about the American grading system? I guess we'll all be hand led and spoon fed once eBay collaborates with the grading companies. It'll be like listing a mobile phone soon, where you HAVE to check various boxes to even get it on...unless you want to list it as a fobile moan or something. :-)

I had to dig out my old pink floyd albums after looking at that! ;-)

Thanks, Rob, conclusive I think! That spacing and size is typical of the images I looked at today!

Far out Man! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-HIGH-GRADE-1797-GEORGE-III-CARTWHEEL-TWO-PENCE-COIN-/110862944100?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item19cff24764 B) B)

I think I've answered the over-mark question. In all of three reverse images I've just looked at, the hand spans the entire field. The wrist is right against the P, and the fingers as near as damn it touching the leaves of the longcross! So I'm inclined to think NO for the Tun over Hand! Still open to gradings, pictures of shilling hands, and thoughts on the privy mark!

Your points highlight the same issues troubling me about it. I also can't decide if that's a thumb or a tun double-strike? Do you think it likely that there would be just the one Tower Mint 'hand' puncheon for the shilling? I note from BCW that many of the punches were used unchanged for years (in service for 30 years in some cases), the reverse Lis and lions in the quarters being an example of many. It would seem possible therefore that a privy puncheon having a service period of only 2 years, may likely be the only one? Any thoughts? To know this would then simply require a hand measurement from another Elizabeth shilling (anybody have one, and a micrometer?) and a straight forward comparison to mine.

Nice rims for the grade too!