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Why doesn't somebody just message him/her? Just a thought!

sorry thught this forum was about coin's sould have gone to the stock market Isn't the inherent value/investment, and the swings and roundabouts of the prices, part of the whole experience of collecting? If you use a price guide to make a decision about how much to pay for a coin that you add to your collection, no matter how humble a purchase, then you too, even if unknowingly, are part of what makes the investment side of collecting coins what it is.

There are 200,000 out there serving 2,000 people who actually want one and another 20,000 punters who want a fast buck.Look at 1951 pennies there are probably 119,950 surviving of which 119,000 are UNC.They were £30 in 1965 and about £30 today.Buy an 18C coin avoiding 1758 1/- 1787 6d & 1/- any Lima coins...or maybe a book...investing in coins is very easy Hi Peter, I'm curious, is that really the coin market, just 2000? Or is that just the number of decimal collectors out there? I'm not questioning, but genuinely interested in the sources of these kind of statistics, as you will have probably picked up from some of my previous posts.

Can anybody shed any light on the Davies Large Date on 1845 Crowns? Michael on his website discusses the dates with some good images http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/CR%201845%20dates.htm but suggests that the large date seems to be the commoner type, unlike Davies. I've been looking at a couple that I have, and they too have the large date, according to Michael's criteria. So, has Davies got this the wrong way round? How long is your date? Is there a different, even larger date that Davies is referring to? Probably not, given that the 'rarer' type only commands a 10% higher price tag. Any thoughts?

Just a thankyou to let everyone know I really do appreciate all the effort that gets put into answering posts like mine. I'm really grateful, thankyou!

I should be, assuming everything goes to plan. Did you make it Historic Coinage? Did you see the two Ed VI sixpences? They had been switched around in their sleeves, made me wonder whether this was done by an unscrupulous viewer (being as the viewing is so open, and trust-based). Great auction, very impressed, a very nice family spirit, couldn't have been a more pleasant team.

Are there any of the damaging PVC elements present in the plastic windows of the L***t H***e sleeves? Does anyone know of any issues with lustre when using these sleeves long term?

Here's something Debbie, in the EdVII section on eBay...110801666410 Have a look see!

Have I got this right, 5% buyer's premium at Croydon Coin Auctions? Why so much cheaper than the rest? Anyone been? Any thoughts?

Like all good addicts; alcoholics, smokers, IV drug abusers, we always manage to find the money somewhere!

Try again...The image quality is much better in the second edition, so I read somewhere, which is why I purchased that particular edition for myself. I've never browsed the first edition to check this out for myself however. If you think you're hooked now, just wait until you start scanning over the pages of Freeman! Tie up your purse strings and throw away your cheque book would be my advice ;-)

Ahh, pish, I never meant to embed the reply in the middle of the above text like that, damned phone!

The image quality is much better in the second edition, so I read somewhere, which is why I purchased that particular edition for myself. I've never browsed the first edition to check this out for myself however. If you think you're hooked now, just wait until you start scanning over the pages of Freeman! Tie up your purse strings and throw away your cheque book would be my advice ;-) That's not the first edition - which was 1969? 1970? But because the 1985 is more up to date than the 1st edition, and is also out of print, it fetches more than twice as much (usually). I never saw the point to that with regard to prices except to a book collector.

I'm wondering if it's possible to compile some stats on the following: I'm particularly interested to know whether building a website and getting it ranked is a fruitful proposition, aside from the prestige, when it comes to selling coins? Does eBay represent the greatest total sales for those who have both? What kind of % split would you say was an average? What about coin fairs, do the tables there justify their expense? Essentially, what percentage of revenue would you say each of the major outlets represents? I would be very interested to find out, as I have been building a site the hard way (using HTML & CSS) and still have a long long way to go to complete it, so would like to know whether I'd be better off focusing my attention elsewhere in the short term if sales are the aim, which of course they are! Thanks all!

See you in a couple of year's, then! Congratulations and best wishes, Stuart

Don't suppose you have any examples of these do you Declan? When I look at mine it looks like its the middle diamond that doesn't touch the baseline ? of course... Type 1 above, Type 2 below... Damn good photography!

I've just reflected on the above...they obviously can't sell short of your bid, you'd notice in the final published prices! Haven't got my thinking cap on tonight! I'm still amazed I won nothing, though!

If there are any techniques, Peter, I'd sure like to know them? I left around 5k in absentee bids at the last DNW auction, this was my first ever absentee auction, and I placed bids at more than double the estimate in some cases, and at least 80% of my bids were a decent amount over the estimate. I still cannot believe to this day that I didn't win a single lot! I do wonder, if there's only a £ or 3 difference in the bidding, whether the auctioneers let the lots go to the floor. It's much easier to process sales and get rid if you're dealing with an attendee, also it keeps a frenzy going in the room, I should think?

Probably a highly inappropriate conversation, but I have heard that the same process used for 'ageing' silver jewellery, will also work to some degree with copper! Might be worth tying it out on something of low value, just to improve eye appeal, if you're determined to polish something for your own collection. An interesting benefit of Playing around with such processes is that it might just help you in spotting artificially toned coins in the future! Apparently, liver of sulphur (nasty toxic fumes when reacting with silver etc), or the yolk of a hard boiled egg, will add tone to a shiny coin. Give it a try and see what happens! Put the boiled yolks of one or two eggs into a sealed bag or jar with the coin, and leave overnight - this may darken the coin too much, or you may need to repeat the process a second time. Totally trial and error! Happy boiling!

You don't seem to have read any of my posts? I suggested that acid has eroded away the metal to such an extent that the underlying stress patterns caused by the teeth area of the strike (normally invisible) have been exposed to view. I concur 100% with your posts and theory! My thread echos exactly what you have been saying, mine's just a proposed idea of the processes involved!

Distracted? You have hit the nail right on the head there, I just cannot stop from picking up my phone and checking the threads out. It's real pain that I can view all the new content at the click of a button, because that is what I am doing now, more and more! It's a great idea Mr Peckris, Sir...keep us all addicted to the forum, leaving us no time to get out there and surf the world for bargain coins. :-)

The 'tooth' between D & G, alongside the colon, on the obverse, stretches well beyond the legend, and breaches the field, without the slightest distortion to the lettering and, as Rob suggested at the start of the thread, seems a little odd if this is purported to be a stretched flan. There seems to be no other rational explanation for this coin, scientifically speaking (outside of any suggestion that there was a die cut with teeth extending beyond the legend), other than to say that the extended teeth were exposed by erosion. It's not inconceivable, we already know that metal becomes harder when stressed and compressed - this makes perfect sense then to me that the compression forces at the edge of the coin, forming the teeth, would penetrate deep into the blank, never to be seen again until the softer, unstressed metal, is dissolved first by some 'chemical process or other.' All humbly theoretical of course!

Rob & Peckris - Christ (forgive me for blasphemy, if it offends you), you guys, where do you find the time or patience to share so much?

Bugger!

Every megapixel is sacred. Don't waste 'em. Wear on her plait is what we're looking for here and the lions/harp show wear on the reverse. Good strike though as frequently the lions are pretty poorly defined. I would micrograde and go NEF-EF. If Victoria really had looked like that she would have had all the crowned heads of Europe forming a disorderly queue outside Buckingham Palace. By all aqccounts though (mostly her own), she made up in enthusiasm for what she lacked in star quality. Her diary entry concerning her wedding night is very revealing... Sorry to be so un-PC but it is Christmas! Wow, I never knew there were diary documents out there re queen Vic! Are they compiled in a book or online resource somewhere, I'd love to read it!