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I wonder if it’s a contemporary forgery? It looks to be masquerading as a London coin if the LON in the outer quadrant of the reverse is taken into account?

@Sword Shocking!

I’d question that, Dave, the monarch was definitely seated on a throne for that date, and that denomination!

Wow, never knew that!

Agreed, I’ve sold raw coins to enthusiastic collectors that I wouldn’t want back for half the price I sold them for. A common feature of being new to the hobby that grates.

More effort is made in packaging meat for supermarkets, Craigy! Sword’s disclaimer taken from a TPGC’s Ts & Cs speaks volumes for me.

I think you’ll be fine. This is the best feature of slabbing, that the coins are carefully decontaminated on arrival at the TPGC to remove all detrimental pollutants, before sealing them up in a perfect vacuum, preserving them in a fixed state for all time.

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Oh, Jesus, Dave, you do dig them out. ‘N’ for NHS (I ask you ), Numistacker, Numpty, Noob...just wow! Is it Numistacker or Numis Taker? Money taker or piss taker? Hmmmm

Are London Coins SO bad? One can only presume they’d be happy to have it slabbed as such?

Even in all my milled ignorance was just about to post NO way too!

I’m no expert on these things, but with only the most basic of searches I’d say the punches stand up. As Rob says, and I agree, the F in FRA is clogged or weak. I’m genuinely surprised at the variety of dies and diversity of punches for a singular and well-known ‘type.’ The copper streak concerns me...but would make me think contemporary forgery, rather than modern fake, and I’m not convinced it’s either. In-hand assessment and weight will be the biggie here! Really interesting coin.

I think the bust and crown punches are likely from the same die-maker as this genuine one. The OP coin could be a contemporary c’feit though, looking at the copper showing through? Difficult from photos.

I’ve had a couple of pewter groats from his reign, will look them out.

It hasn’t been photographed that well, to be honest, I would ordinarily stay clear of something that looks like that. However, I’d 100% take it as what it says it is coming from John...plus you could always send it back if you weren’t happy!

Ah, yes, I agree, but there are many damaged examples that would lend themselves to this quite cheaply...plugged coins also spring to mind

Oooooh, an Elizabeth I shilling, now that would be good in a silver case.

That was the point of the post

One to watch! https://davcoin.com/lot/printed-auction-38-lot-134?utm_source=Davissons+Ltd&utm_campaign=07b93ac9b1-a38-closes-tomorrow&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3777ece20e-07b93ac9b1-134878717

Gorgeous!

Can’t remember what it was I saw now, I screen shot them and was looking at them in bed last night. Will take another look at them tonight after work.

You’d think they would, wouldn’t you? We get scratch-resistant watch faces and glasses, can’t be that much of a challenge?

First good argument I’ve seen for slabbing though, the scratches on that slab! 😲