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Hi Dave, have you published these stats anywhere, or are they only from your personal record?

Good luck with the Wiltons! Will let you know re the John, I use the same user name, so you’ll probably know anyway.

Quite amazing! Hey, D, I’m going to leave that H2 Tealby alone for now, I’m going to give that pretty John a go instead!

If you look at the deformed right arm/leaf, and the flaw in the 8 oclock field, they are present on them all. If you search the forum using 'fake elizabeth milled' or try 'counterfeit elizabeth milled' you'll get plenty to read. Hope you didn't pay too much? Was it eBay?

Mine was 2.68g

What a shoddy batch of Edward pennies at London Coins, some even making single lots!

I’ll dig out some photos of one I’ve had, might even be the same one??

It’s a copy!

I often see devices incuse! Takes an age sometimes to see them normally, then you can flick between the two after that!

That’s a lovely coin, Dave, what a price! You could have 10 of those for the price of that recent CNG coin I mentioned in the Plantagenets thread.

If it’s a UK buyer, it’ll cost just a whisker under £500 delivered for this common variety! Things are definitely changing for the best Plantagenet material. I’ve only been an observer these past 2 years, but the top end pieces are definitely outperforming book. Equally, there are a lot of Lizzies that I wish I hadn’t sold a couple of years ago! Phenomenal rise in the better grades!

You must be saving yourself for the gold dance, Non?

Thanks, Peter, it’s certainly stacking up the votes. A recommendation is half the work done! 😊

Aw, bless, he’s put so much time into researching it too! I hope he hasn’t put a deposit on a holiday or car on the strength of it? 😬

I’ll take a look...many thanks, Gaz! 👍

I often wonder how sellers manage to keep a 100% track record when pulling stunts like that?

You guys have sold me all over again, I’m on it! 👍 PS and hey it’s absolutely 100% Stuart Stu Stupot Stupid or variants thereof!

Man i’ve just got to join a club and touch base with experienced detectorists! I bought an xterra a couple of years ago and really struggled with its operation/set up and eventually gave up and sold it! Time to rethink that me thinks!

I’m very much back-tracking and going 100% with your XS legend, Richard...good work, you have presented credible evidence! As you may have picked up in various threads, I have never bought or investigated coins that are earlier than John, with my previous major collecting interest being Elizabethan, until my more recent commitment to the Plantagenets. So the Tealby’s are clearly on my radar, even though I have kept myself satisfied with the Edwards, H3 and John, thus far! It’s great to have a lively hammered section on this forum!

There are no doubt bargains to be had, Dave, and i’m very much into that, and congrats on your weedling them out! 😊 I think the stand out quality of the OP coin is its rarity on account of grade and eye-appeal, which is clearly exceptional, and clearly going to be the difference when/if the price collapses - I would expect/hope the values of top class coins to hang in there a little better??? I think we are seeing a migration towards quality over micro-varieties in recent years, especially in the milled markets, so hopefully that’ll save the wise collector from any catastrophic fall-outs?? All that being said, I was surprised to see this one breach the £200 mark, which is the safe place I would’ve happily gone with it. Hey ho! I have managed to buy equal grade pennies to the OP coin for just over £100, so swings and roundabouts I guess. We all now know where we’re selling our top grade duplicates, though, and it ain’t eBay, where i’ve just recently bumped into my first idiot in around 2000 sales at 100% - much safer buying than selling nowadays!

Superb, Declan, you’ve been putting in the miles! Well done, m’friend!

Having looked a little more closely, I concur with your point about the X and Tealby cross. I’ve only been able to find an S on the reverse so far but, as you know, they are notorious for being poorly made and badly struck.

It’ll be interesting to hear of the outcome, do let us know!

I placed a couple early on, just to keep it live in my emails! Nearly £400 with juice and tax now, I would sure love to have it, but too strong for me now! Good luck if you have top bid, a spectacular coin. 👍

The problem you have here Richard is that the coin has been entered into the dies a number of time, as well as upside down! The dotted shoulder armour is very much in the wrong place, relative to the hand! Also, what you perceive to be obverse legend (X and S) are actually sat inside the obverse inner circle, and I would personally say that the X is a Tealby cross from the reverse, where the coin has also been hammered upside down. I haven’t looked, but there is every chance you’ll find that S somewhere in the reverse legend too?