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It’s also muled with a class 11-15 coin

I’m definitely for Class 10, and whilst it doesn’t seem clear whether it has contraction marks, the crown is very much the profile of the low crown 10ab. legend says it’s 10ab - 15 Rule out 11 because yours has a clear left ornament. Rule out 12 and 13 because yours has a larger face and no crown matches. Rule our 14 and 15 because your left ornament is too high and too large, relative to the fleurs. So I’m going to stick my neck out and say, given the overall congestion of the crown, and despite the fact it doesn’t look to have contraction marks, that your coin is Class 10ab

Really pleased with this farthing for under £90. Can’t say i’ve even seen a Bristol farthing, certainly not in this grade. There was that comparable Newcastle farthing a while back, but that went off the scale on eBay.

So, $350 bid on my John penny from Davissons, granted no buyer fee, so happy days. sterling conversion has turned out: £251 for the coin £29 postage (seemed a lot) £25 Import Vat and handling total cost of coin delivered £305 (so very nearly your $ to £ straight conversion, Rob - with buyers fee [had there been one] it would’ve been spot on) so, a quick question, y’all...have Parcel Force used the correct type of charge? I was expecting customs or excise duty, but have been billed for import VAT?

Too far for me, but hoping the weather’s good! Happy strikes! 👍

Probably the realistic figure, Rob, a straight conversion of $ to £ - makes it difficult to compete against the US buyers though. I’ll do the maths when my Davisson coin arrives and put it up here!

But adding in $40 of postage, the figures start to hurt a bit.

Thank you gents!

Anybody ever actually taken this up with Parcelforce and got a definitive answer on what we should be paying on numismatic items over 100 years old? The Government advice is a little bit of a challenge https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-362-imported-antiques/notice-362-imported-antiques What % taxes have you paid on official imports, namely those that have arrived via companies like Heritage, CNG, Davissons, etc., rather than private sales which have slipped under the radar?

Great coin of your’s and, yes, I think a definite 3g. Happy collecting, and long may our purchases be cheap! 🤫😁👍

What’s the reverse like? I’m guessing you paid less than the near-£500 the CNG coin went for?

Cheers, Dave, I must dig out your Class 7 article at some point!

Someone’s been busy! This reign is endless, the varieties just go on and on! Nice acquisition, Des! 👏

Nice, a 2b as per the first coin in this thread! 👍

My latest target, and a month to organise the funds...however, is it a 3d as described? I’m wondering whether it might actually be 3g? unusual in that it had wedge contractions. Hopefully this will cover off my Bristol mint. I wonder whether it’ll do that silly $525 dollar thing? Hopefully not, though I’m up for it, a lovely coin!

Just to add for completion it’s BCW WK-2:d6

Just realised this is the glendinings sale of F Elmore Jones’ collection. Lot 1262 then I’m guessing?

But in all reality would someone who knew nothing about coins be doing that? I’m just trying to suggest that if someone’s knowledge of E1’s milled issue is so poor that they’d be fooled by a primitive pewter copy like that, then the saying stands that a fool and his money... Now if someone bought ‘this’ Elizabeth milled counterfeit I’d have every sympathy, because it’s easily done!

Ok, so a bad example to choose, but what about the other regional mints that spink price down against the London counterparts?

Thanks, Dave, much appreciated. I ask again, where is all this info. stored? In your own records, or spread out across endless articles? Will you be putting together an Edward I tome anytime soon? 👍

Any ideas why Spink should price, say, the Edward I Newcastle, York, Lincoln, pennies etc. lower than the more common London variants? The reality is that the values they quote could almost be added ON to the London price, then we'd be close. So, in the 2013 spink the 3b London is £80 in VF The York price 'for well struck, full flan coins' is £50

Difficult one as the collar and crown are not especially clear. Looking at Bente & Withers, I'd say these are as good as any pellets demonstrated in the crowns they show - spearheads are much larger and angular, so what do you think? I know some pellets are large and very round but, equally, they are shown to be small too. The collar...some of the images show very squared off collars, and I'm guessing mine would run across the neck but for the weakness? So, to save me looking for a die match, what do we all think? The old collector ticket suggests 3b, not that I ever go by those.

I have sympathy with collectors being caught out by genuinely good copies but, in all honesty, if someone gets caught by these primitive pewter copies I personally feel they should be zipping up their bank accounts and finding out just a little bit about the basics first. If someone turned up at the stock exchange and chucked £50 on a wild card, knowing nothing about stocks and shares, we’d most definitely call him a fool!