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Goodness, that would turn in all on it’s head. I’m guessing there are too many people holding very expensive Scarborough coins to ever let that be a truth?

I thought that about the reverse, but it’s not consistent with the obverse, which made me doubt a full cast, though the sheet itself could’ve been poured and the reverse contact with a cold surface could potentially create the bubbles, before then being cut up and hammered from a clearly crude die? Now here’s a question...would it ever have happened that cut-off cavaliers, or even parliamentary forces, would’ve chanced producing a product like the OP coin? It could also be a very easy target for forgers in the new commonwealth period couldn’t it??? ? edit: some confusion...i was talking about the cast-like bubbles of the reverse, you were obviously referring to the irregularity of the bottom ‘die’

It doesn’t look like an electrotype to me, it looks hammered? Does that make it a contemporary counterfeit (weight and metal would decide that I guess), or a more recent attempt at forgery (though I don’t think it will have succeeded in that at any point)?

Gosh! Thank-you so much Peck and Sleepy, truly appreciate your efforts in explaining this! I’m back to feeling happy with the dynasty spanning H2-R3!

Doesn’t sit well with me either, but then I do confess to having very little knowledge of the early pennies. It doesn’t help that it’s listed alongside a number of 21st century pennies?? ?

If the main line ended with R2, are we saying then that the kings thereafter are NOT truly Plantagenets? Are R3 and E4 Plantagenet, then? ?

And a very merry Christmas to you too, Sir!

Many thanks, gents, that clears it up for me nicely!

So to collect the Plantagenets is to include every king from Henry II through to Richard III? Perhaps I’d better just confine my interest, then, to the first 3 Edwards and abandon any fancy ideas that would include Tealby pennies and Richard III coins. Although I have seen a fabulous Tealby that’s available!!!

It just seems that some historians want to leave out the Angevins from the start of the Plantagenet dynasty, saying the true English kings of the period begin at Henry III? Equally, there seems to be as much confusion (at least for me) about whether the Plantagenets finish with Richard II or continue until the end of the York and Lancastrians?

As per the title, what are your thoughts? Henry II or not?

The second T also has a different rotation.

Like this one, but your’s is 30b All other references remain the same!

Type 30, will look it up later when I’m home! ?

@Descartes not this one perchance? 391903080227 i also watched this, thinking as always about how I could cook the books until month’s end! Things are getting better, so the past 7a and farthing will not pass me by so easily by in the future!

Not mine, sadly! Would have been tomorrow, though, had it not been spotted by someone else!

An annoying and hopeful wait for a lovely little farthing came to an end just 2 days before pay day! It was mine! I wanted it! I looked at it every day, hoping nobody else would spot it, and now it’s gone! 292371787088

It’s going under the hammer! 222759821044

You’re right about that portrait! Well done, Sir! ?

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So, yes...BCW CN-2:c2 with the damaged Lis punch 29(2)

Oh, and just to add, a gorgeous pair of coins! Beautiful!

Wow, can we see your 1b? ?