Coinery

I can only guess that the buyer desperately needed a 1c for the collection? there does seem to be a rise in the prices for quality Plantagenet coins? I might've joined the party too late. Back to G6 it is, then! ?

That gives it some perspective I guess? Still far too much money for ugly coins, 1a or not! It's looking like a worthy example is going to sail way over £1.5k according to these two previous examples?

Grrr, can't upload the cropped close-up! Nice coin though! Edit: I can now upload! ?

This 1c surprised me too!

Totally nuts! Can hardly believe it!

eBay is definitely a gamble, whatever perspective you take, so I think you have to view the experience in balance. For me that means overall I'm up on the good experiences and nice surprises, allowing me to feel less disgruntled at the negative aspects. I think you have to use it regularly for the 'balance' to happen, you can get very badly burned by the occasional dabble otherwise. i confess I don't use it so often nowadays, and have become shy as a consequence. I'm definitely tending more towards the idea of coin fairs when the money starts rolling in. When you know what you like, eBay can be a struggle.

I'm off the fence and concur with Rob...3g, and a fabulous Durham example at that! Got to question our superiors in the best interest of academic rigor I say!

I've been looking at the class myself this evening - didn't get home until 10pm so only a brief scan before bed. I'm personally tending towards 3cd myself, though 3g is the other variant I also was looking at. I think the crown is the more elegant 3cd though, but will sit on the 3cd/3G fence until I get a chance to look at it more closely tomorrow. the S favours 3g, but is also occasionally found on 3cd, so the jury's out for me at the moment!

Heather and Steve (think it's Steve?) sending you first dibs are they? ?? £180? I really do like it!

Can't find it on completed items, either? Hmmmm!

Lovely coin, didn't see them put that one up. ?

It's certainly a distinctive R, not entirely down to a double strike I think. I believe we'll find it in part on other coins. We'll have to keep an eye out!

The limb of the cross is also slightly doubled. I wonder whether it's an attempt to sink a composite R using what's available? Is the curved leg of the R an apostrophe punch I wonder? The way to explore it further is by first finding (or not finding) a second example of the die, which would then highlight whether the letter is intensional or simply doubled? That would save any speculation from the outset...then you can better unpick what is there!

I love it that the close-up image of the 'round' beads exists only because of the verd obscuring the rest of the teeth! ?

I think you've already researched this way beyond any contribution I could make, Rob! Interesting stuff, though!

The legend certainly has it as a Treaty Series penny, what are your concerns? I confess to never having researched the edIII series in any great depth, so wouldn't know if continental coins existed for this reign. Time for a bit more reading! ?

Class 11b, as per Mr P's BsE coin recently posted, except his is the slightly shorter face, hence 11b1 if you've got the Galata guide the picture in the centre of page 39, "11b large face, rounded chin" is the one! ?

It's class 11 and looks fine to me! I'm watching some of the other coins this seller is listing. Unusual to see a number of better grade coins for sale at the same time!

The left hand point of the underlying 4 on John's coins points nearly halfway up the top loop of the 8 though?

Many thanks, Stu, what year was it published, will look it up. ? Anyone else looked at it?

That was going to be my comment, which means a high 4 is presumeably out there on another year? Whatever the finding, it'll be a very wide and stand-out last digit we'll be looking for on another die! Love coins and single malt, a very pleasing combination, even though I say so myself! So glad you're back, John! ?

Cool, and good work! What's short cross legends? You've got me intrigued! ?

Have you tried Rob?

There is a reason. I've read it somewhere, but can't think where, and can't think what, if that's any help? ? You're such an academic, coinery!

I've always put 'numismatic items' or 'die-cast metal disks' on the paperwork... ...and always tell the PO that they are gaming tokens if they enquire further! ?