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I was just about to say the same thing! At least one or both are a bad un, they are definitely not the same coin photographed under different lighting conditions!

I'm away at my dad's this weekend, and mostly snowed under with work, exams, and assignments, at the moment, but would love to join this project at some point soon! did you manage to find out the container width of you website, the ideal width for inserting a document into your site? not sure how this thread will/can work in a functional/orderly way, but I'm glad we have it!

"The coins in the slabs go round and round, round and round, round and round; the coins in the slabs go round and round, all day long!"

That's got an amazingly sharp rim and clean cut edge! How do you clean them in the field? Great find, what's the other side like?

Definitely! Very impressed with that technique, thanks for sharing, Leo! ?

Yes, I noticed that! But in the context of the other pewter copies, and in light of the ed1 being commonly copied, I didn't think a £10k+ coin would be sitting amongst them? ? Edit: and at least 6 or 7 of them at that! ?

Sorry for the delay, Mick! EDWAR ANGL DNS HYB closed letters, one piece S, etc. etc. - Withers Class 10cf ...and as I mentioned, other than numismatically, no special significance re the extra pellets!

Pile of junk, sadly!

I've just got to wondering when a variety becomes a micro-variety, and even when a type becomes a variety? Obviously I had my head in an E1 book last night, and have now confused myself over the following...can anybody type T, V, or MV alongside the below examples? Any explanations would be very much appreciated! Elizabeth Sixpence - Elizabeth 1561 Sixpence - Elizabeth 1561 Sixpence, (Privy Mark BA) - Elizabeth 1561 Sixpence (BA) Large Flan - Elizabeth 1561 Sixpence (BA) L'Flan Bust 1F - And then hypothetically speaking, as I'm out without the book... E 1561 6D (BA) LF Bust 1F [overdate/overmark, etc] - E 1561 6D (BA) LF Bust 1F [specific punches, lions etc] - E 1561 6D (BA) LF Bust 1F [FR/FRA, ELZBETH etc] - E 1561 etc Individual Dies (legend positionings etc) - And finally what (hypothetically speaking) would an Elizabeth I inverted 6 1561 Large-Flan, Bust 1F, Rose 79, 6D Broad Arrow over Cross-Crosslet, ELZBETH Sixpence be called? If a Victoria Penny had all the above features, clear and distinct, would that be classified in the same way? Any thoughts?

Hey, Mick, I spotted this one in the other thread but I'm at my dad's for the weekend, so haven't any access to books, hence my memory recall 'only' on the crown type in the other post, but will look at that too when I get back. re the pellets (will look out the class later), I don't believe it intentional, just a partially struck coin being re-entered into the die. It could also happen that a coin of a different monarch is used, leaving some of the remaining details visible in the fields. Equally, it could be old die stock that hasn't been properly cut back before punching in the new design (finding a matching reverse die would confirm this). Either way, I wouldn't say it's anything significant, especially in the field of hand hammered coins. Different perhaps in the milled market. Hope you're well? Will come back to the class early next week, unless someone gets in before me!

Good luck!

Just looking at it briefly without books, whilst is hasn't got all the classic indicators of a Class 11 crown (a lot of it being clogged and poorly struck), what remains points to Class 11 and this is what I think it is, making it Edward II would need a better look with the literature, of course! The galata guide, and UKDFD link are both excellent resources.

Ah, OK, that old cookie called logic!

Lord knows what the circumstances were, but I've just snapped up a coin on eBay for £96 that was sold by Lloyd Bennett only last month! Beautiful little thing in hand! Anyone know where/when the FEJ collection got sold off?

Do you mean plate 33 in Eaglen's?

Wow, thanks, Rob, phenomenal! Just as a point of interest the two obverse Ns are reverse barred on my example. Have you seen the coin in the June 83 bulletin? How did you know it was in there, and another class 1d was in the later one?

I'll try and put together an example of what I mean after the W/E. In the meantime, some out of focus phone images of the ticket that goes with the OP penny! I know very little about tickets! I can only interpret/understand: Edward I Id London WT 21.6gr S1383 NEF & Ex F.E.J 18.5 - 19.0mm However, what's: Seaby 22.12.83 (I assumed the 83 sale would be Glendinings)? The red S (sold?????) 6TD WQ on tipex? 83 7565 H? EOT? P24485? certainly a busy ticket! pictures to follow (will sometimes allow me to upload 2 photos taken on my phone...another time it won't even let me add 1).

Rob, what about uploading images and related coins here for assessment and verification/debate, and then I can keep adding them to a series of A4ish PDF files or similar, jpeg by pixel size (your kids would know the perfect width size for your site), etc. (by collection), which you could then upload onto your website under a cascade menu, or however your site manages pages?

Great idea re the ticket resource...we could definitely do with a logical online reference/resource! Equally, it would be great to have a digital record of all these tickets and the coins they relate to, if only to preserve the collectible history of the coins. The OP coin is a class example of potential lost heritage, in that had I not emailed the seller asking whether there was an old ticket with the coin, the Elmore connection could've been lost forever, given the coin isn't a plate coin in the catalogue. Having said that I haven't received it yet!

Ha, yes, the boat is getting smaller and smaller! The seller is sending me the old ticket, so I'll be interested to see where that points me? I'd definitely be interested in a copy of the catalogue if I can make a reasonable link between the two, though!

Does anyone have the Spink 2017 VF price for Class 1d handy?

Hey, thanks, m'friend! Yes, I was really pleased to win it! It was one of those delightful moments where you chuck £150 bid on in the last seconds and then get a really nice surprise!

Not sure what's going on with my ability to post! I've had something glitchy going on since last night! Anyway, many thanks, Rob, much appreciated! Was that Part 1 or Part 2?