Coinery

That's very much of use, thanks, Pete! ?

Brilliant! Many thanks, TG!

Lord knows what the circumstances were, but I've just snapped up a coin on eBay for £96 that was sold by Lloyd Bennett only last month! Beautiful little thing in hand! Anyone know where/when the FEJ collection got sold off?

Not sure I feel convinced on that one? If he used the drawings he would also have included the dot below the S and the pellet within the O I think? How/why would he have included or even known about the accurate die crack, unless he had access to an actual coin itself...then the image would've been superfluous to the counterfeiter's deceit, wouldn't it?

Oh, dear! Never been one for the easy road! I'll give it an hour or so, under enlargement on a PC, and come back to you with anything I spot!

The main problem with trying to remove verdigris is that it's merged with the copper surface of the coin; it needed the copper in order to create itself! So, the big issue then is, to remove the verdigris is also to remove some of the coin, and what you get left with isn't pretty! If you have a verdigris spot in the field that sticks out like a sore thumb, then sure a pitted brown spot will look much better. However, if you have a completely green coin (as in Rob's example), you'd better get to likin' green pretty quickly!

My first instinct is to say your 2nd image is the youngest coin, basing that on the clogged denomination numerals and what looks to be a chipped A in Caro... also, the PM is looking pretty butchered too! As for the others...I think it can be done!

Love the description! For this rare coin he has had many customers, and they've presumably had replacement fakes to swap with the 'genuine' encapsulated coin before returning? What naughty crooks, trying to rip this honourable eBay seller off, I honestly don't know what the world's coming to! Thank goodness he and eBay have a good working relationship, and are able to halt these fraudulent customers in their tracks! "Accept all the returns without any question and for any reason but in the same status I send, over all the authentication box must be unopened. Some customers have opened the box, returned me and later ebay and me have catched them selling the coin again. So, no exception."

Possibly? At least you're there now! In my example I shared the 'direct link' and the 'image link' incidentally, @F8met the groat picture I posted is counterfeit, presumed contemporary! Interesting coins, and utterly breathtaking in the very top grades.

You can see them now then? What's changed?

Ha, yes, absolutely! I'll save our usual seat!

What about either of these @Rob? %5BURL=http://s1270.photobucket.com/user/coinery/media/MG1resize.jpg.html%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj620/coinery/MG1resize.jpg%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D

You certainly know your stuff, Kal, many thanks for the info., really interesting! It's a very convincing piece on the surface of it, I'm surprised the counterfeiter went to such lengths to produce the die-crack, only to spoil it all by leaving out significant detail like those you mentioned? The dies even had pitting. An interesting coin regardless...I wouldn't say no!

Trouble is, Peter, I'd end up taking you to the pub! I've just started a new job this week! Back to nursing! Work means £s...and £s means coins!

Very acceptable loss! Years ago I used to have that information, but have since misplaced it. I used to buy the silver off eBay, calculating how much the coins would weigh, based on the wear, and then bid accordingly! Not an overly successful silver buying project, but I did develop a good feel for acceptable weight loss at the time! As was mentioned above, it's a valuable exercise to weigh a few and build a small database!

Is there any chance at all that die clogs could be the answer, rather than it being a forgery? Is there any evidence of clogs developing on the other examples? Also (a massive long shot), could it have been a pre-1921 smart Alec removing devices from a genuine coin to generate an undocumented variety? I only offer the argument because it looks so good, and appears hammered! Making new 'original' fake dies is one thing, but making fake dies that replicate known issues and positioning of devices is an altogether different animal! would certainly love to know more!

And rightly so! Henry VI seems to turn up a lot of nice quality coins. It's great to get hammered!

Some silver testing kits aren't sensitive down to .500 The one I've got (bit old now) will give a blinding result for sterling, but a really unsatisfactory result on debased coins.

Welcome aboard, prep! You know you're doing the right thing!

Interesting post, Ziggy, many thanks for taking the time to add it here for reference!

We've got another fish on the line! Reel 'im in chaps, reel 'im in!

Nice coin! Doesn't look like a die flaw, though, that would present as a ridge? Could it be the stress lines of an old crease, it runs perfectly straight through the letters, suggesting it's also not a flan flaw?

Yes, I was surprised that the design software/templates were not fluid enough to be mobile friendly when it was first launched, I assumed it was teething troubles that would be ironed out eventually. I more or less understand the issues, but you do have to walk a long mile today to find a piece of web software that hasn't been designed to accommodate mobile and the various operating systems.

C'mon, WC, you know you can do it! ?

This is what's been my biggest issue with the 'new' site! SO much scrolling! Plus the advert containers means the text 'slides' all over the place when I'm doing so!