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No, I'm only talking about the overdate proposal. I personally think the circles are post mint damage.
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Without overwhelming other evidence, I'd also say no, though it appears to be the same 'error' that's being reported as that overdate. It's my thought that the 3 might have curled around much more on the freshly made die, but over a short period has become clogged and damaged, maybe even rusty (the general state of the dies shown are pretty poor overall). Then at some point a repair happened, quite possibly using the punch that makes up the tail of the 6 and 9 (could challenge the 9/0 variety too, if the original 6 and 9 weren't composite, but repaired with a new punch?), which was used to create a slightly different and lower line, which may have been intentional to make for a clearer looking 3? Clear as mud I know! More likely a recut in my opinion.
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I'm personally not convinced about this overdate at all, though it'll be interesting to see your's, C44. The fact the feature appears on different dies weakens the argument a bit. The inverted 2 idea was interesting, excepting the even greater unlikelihood that an inverted 2 would've been mistakenly punched into multiple dies?
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Yes, these massively affect the value of the coin. Massively! Also, in all honesty, if I'd been selling this coin, I don't think I would've thought it necessary to mention such a glaring issue in the description? Can we have a close up of the overdate?
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Just to get you started... 50 - Edward III Durham Penny 52 - likely Edward II Canterbury Penny (need to double-check letter styles) 54 - 6th Issue Elizabeth I Halfgroat
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Yes, I've enjoyed my godliness very much! People have been flocking to my door for advice, day and night! But, now, I'm tired of it all, I'm going to come over there and have some of what you are having instead! let's drink bourbon straight and talk about slabbing! Better get in the caterers too because this God is going to take a lot of talking round on that front, and we'll need to eat! John, you've got a long way to go before you'll ever come close to convincing me, or hopefully any other soul here!
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This guy drinks more wine than I do!
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Most, as I'm sure you will subsequently find, will actually agree, NOT disagree!
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That's a fair response, from which I must now bow out!
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I have 10 year old coins which have been acetoned before me right now! Where you are coming from on this I do not know, or why you perceive flicking off a green cruddy contaminant to be any different to removing grease?
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For goodness sake, John, we are NOT talking about verd or oxidation here! For the benefit of anyone new, we are talking about removing contaminants BEFORE your product (whether it is good or not, and I'd say probably not) is ever required. Hopefully good practice in decontamination will reduce the necessity for your product full stop! i have to say I'm totally exhausted in explaining what is a very simple process that has ABSOLUTELY NO connection whatsoever to the process of cleaning! wiping a coffe spill from an antique piece of furniture is good practice, not full-blown restoration!
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Best basic identifier for voided cross pennies?
Coinery replied to jelida's topic in British Hammered
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Complete and utter rubbish! You are fundamentally misunderstanding the terms 'chemical' and 'cleaned!' Goodness this has been written about and clarified over and over again throughout this forum. preservation is altogether a different animal to enhancement! If you had red wine on your white carpet, would you attempt to remove it to spare the carpet from being irreparably damaged? If so, consider grease and grime on a coin in the same way! Leave it there are you will eventually have prints and blotches, verd and spots...your call! For any newbie that visits this post, please check for yourself, you will find no harm comes to your bronze and copper coinage from 'decontaminating' them! They will NOT suddenly look or actually be cleaned...you will only be removing things that will in the future damage your coins! To the new visitor...there are a million posts on here about acetone...please search for them and read them all!
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Superb work alfnail and chingford! it's certainly one heck of an optical illusion that the B looks much bigger than the F. i concede: Penny Boys 1 Everything Else 0
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What convinces everyone that this is a B with a straight edged bottom loop? Wouldn't it also be a little small for a B? Just curious!
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Best basic identifier for voided cross pennies?
Coinery replied to jelida's topic in British Hammered
A great resource i heartily agree! -
Well, there was this penny post, right, and then there was this post about pennies (which was different because it had 'ies' in it), and then there was something about CGS and a little bit of general TPGC discussion, and... Well, that should bring you up to date, really! Probably just around where you left off?
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Expert Tooling in Fields!
Coinery replied to Coinery's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
So, do we reckon this guy/gal could take an H out for us? -
Expert Tooling in Fields!
Coinery replied to Coinery's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
and, close your eyes... -
Expert Tooling in Fields!
Coinery replied to Coinery's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Best I can do, as I didn't end up taking full images of the coin. Great skill, though! -
hardly a week goes by! Great feedback too! What amazes me most about this regularly appearing 3d is the consistency with which it gets called a sixpence. Perhaps it says sixpence on the original Alibaba packaging?
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Yay, some hammered farthing (not penny) banter coming on! Hope you're well, Happy New Year to you and your's, by the way! Good to have you checking back in again!
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Chilled! 'Over and out!'