Coinery

Yes, I've enjoyed my godliness very much! People have been flocking to my door for advice, day and night! But, now, I'm tired of it all, I'm going to come over there and have some of what you are having instead! let's drink bourbon straight and talk about slabbing! Better get in the caterers too because this God is going to take a lot of talking round on that front, and we'll need to eat! John, you've got a long way to go before you'll ever come close to convincing me, or hopefully any other soul here!

This guy drinks more wine than I do!

Most, as I'm sure you will subsequently find, will actually agree, NOT disagree!

That's a fair response, from which I must now bow out!

I have 10 year old coins which have been acetoned before me right now! Where you are coming from on this I do not know, or why you perceive flicking off a green cruddy contaminant to be any different to removing grease?

For goodness sake, John, we are NOT talking about verd or oxidation here! For the benefit of anyone new, we are talking about removing contaminants BEFORE your product (whether it is good or not, and I'd say probably not) is ever required. Hopefully good practice in decontamination will reduce the necessity for your product full stop! i have to say I'm totally exhausted in explaining what is a very simple process that has ABSOLUTELY NO connection whatsoever to the process of cleaning! wiping a coffe spill from an antique piece of furniture is good practice, not full-blown restoration!

Thank-you, Sir!

Complete and utter rubbish! You are fundamentally misunderstanding the terms 'chemical' and 'cleaned!' Goodness this has been written about and clarified over and over again throughout this forum. preservation is altogether a different animal to enhancement! If you had red wine on your white carpet, would you attempt to remove it to spare the carpet from being irreparably damaged? If so, consider grease and grime on a coin in the same way! Leave it there are you will eventually have prints and blotches, verd and spots...your call! For any newbie that visits this post, please check for yourself, you will find no harm comes to your bronze and copper coinage from 'decontaminating' them! They will NOT suddenly look or actually be cleaned...you will only be removing things that will in the future damage your coins! To the new visitor...there are a million posts on here about acetone...please search for them and read them all!

Superb work alfnail and chingford! it's certainly one heck of an optical illusion that the B looks much bigger than the F. i concede: Penny Boys 1 Everything Else 0

What convinces everyone that this is a B with a straight edged bottom loop? Wouldn't it also be a little small for a B? Just curious!

A great resource i heartily agree!

Well, there was this penny post, right, and then there was this post about pennies (which was different because it had 'ies' in it), and then there was something about CGS and a little bit of general TPGC discussion, and... Well, that should bring you up to date, really! Probably just around where you left off?

So, do we reckon this guy/gal could take an H out for us?

and, close your eyes...

Best I can do, as I didn't end up taking full images of the coin. Great skill, though!

hardly a week goes by! Great feedback too! What amazes me most about this regularly appearing 3d is the consistency with which it gets called a sixpence. Perhaps it says sixpence on the original Alibaba packaging?

Yay, some hammered farthing (not penny) banter coming on! Hope you're well, Happy New Year to you and your's, by the way! Good to have you checking back in again!

Chilled! 'Over and out!'

Going strong for a 4-year-old post!

The argument of it possibly being a clogged H is quite simply that some junk got into the tiny impressed H on the die...the rest is history. This wouldn't matter whether it was the first or the 50th coin off the production line. Namely, it wouldn't depend upon any circulation wear to exist, though the phenomenon would be better disguised on a circulated coin without doubt who knows, and this will out one day...it may have been a clog that was spotted and cleared (or re-lettered) quite quickly at the mint? Who knows? I think the jury is out at the moment, but this'll still make it a rare and important penny variety, like so many other clogs and flaws of the penny series. There are enough people interested in this variety that we shall all know about its properly evidenced verification very soon. penny varieties are beginning to dry up, which means some very serious people are looking at what's left out there. not me, though! however: I do fancy an 'anything goes' collection of Victoria in the future, to keep my eye in on the milled, once the EII pennies begin to trickle back in again. i think that's enough coin whoring for one lifetime...to finish up with any Plantagenets, Elizabeth I gold, and any Victorian coinage (all metals) is a good final resting place, covering every budget of most people's journey through life! how exciting!

OK, just to play devil's advocate, let's say the coin was sent off and CGS unquestionably sent it back as a no-H variety, would we all accept that as valid, done and dusted, when MG, Bamford, et al. (et al. meaning all of us and our own insights and presented evidence) could not conclude on it? i know my TPGC position is well known, so I apologise when I say £14.50 does not answer the question at all, not ever. I'm still waiting for that slabbed Northumberland or Gothic Crown to bring the whole Empire crashing to its fallible knees. no offence intended!

Yay, a reply!

I'll dig it out tomorrow for you BCC!

So, just out of interest, does CGS acknowledge that a no-H exists? are they the only ones? As you know, I have VERY limited variety penny knowledge, so could be totally barking up the wrong tree here but, reading between the lines, and all the posts on the subject, I'm getting the impression that not even the big penny references are buying this?

Pennies? What pennies?