Coinery

Crown?

Interesting spot, that! Halfcrown?

I personally think you'd knacker the fields of a proof with even the lightest of dips.

"but: is a restored coin still the original coin, or is it something else?" The fact that you have some doubts yourself as to whether restoration somehow taints the integrity of an item, is an answer in itself! Do YOU think it's still the original coin? It's still the original coin as it is, but with solder marks on it! If you think about it, you are essentially asking 'are you able to turn a blind eye to the fact that some of the legend, and a bit of the rim, and also the patina of the coin are artificial' following restoration? The analogy I made was to highlight the point about when an item/object loses its integrity/desirability through restoration?

Brilliant, and many thanks again! Better get the book I think!

Many thanks, Rob! How does that work with Spink, as now I'm TOTALLY confused? I've got it down as a North 1331b Type II on account of the ANGL legend and lomardic N with '(rarely) Roman Ns on the reverse,' which for me makes it S1699 BUT with a Roman N reverse?Sorry to take up your time, but what do you think?

Having a bit of a night of it all round!

I've just bought this 191682428067 tonight to flip, does anyone have the Withers book and a couple of minutes spare to properly ID it for me? Only until I get my own copy, of course, which is imminent!

Thanks. DaveG38 kindly gave the link in post #5. The before/after pics are remarkable, but: is a restored coin still the original coin, or is it something else? If you know what I mean...I personally think it's something else, much like a classic car! You can have an immaculate 1960's E-Type, which is 50% new panels and half an engine from a different car (albeit it old stock/re manufactured etc), or a WWII Spitfire, which has been built around 5% of its surviving structure and the ID Plate but, bottom line is, neither are quite the real deal, but an awful lot better than not having one! Terrible grammar I know! Edit: and sentence structure!

Scone you illiterate b****r. How you pronounce it is another matter.Edit: "scon"

I'm happy with just 10%, Dave...so much greed around here!

Tee hee! Scone or scon?

Declan was handing them out for 20thC varieties the last I checked, and Rob for everything else across the board! I've got one from both of them! Anoraks that is!

The right, obviously, as you get a better sense of the depth of field/grade.

Looks to be a fabulous grade too!

Nice one, Declan!

I think you are just stripping out the colour to get rid of the blue, as your pictures now look nearly black and white. Definitely getting better though!

I like the idea but, in reality, both the coin and my fingers are bone dry long before I'd get any chance to rinse OR blow-dry the coin, it evaporates that quickly. I don't treat acetone too seriously to be honest. It will remove a lot of gunk you may have thought you were stuck with but, and more importantly, it also degreases coins very effectively, hopefully ruling out any future print or unevenness of tone. Every little helps, as Azda (or is it Tescos?) would say!

Looks cast to me, probably pewter! What weight is it?

'guaranteed genuine, and from my own collection'! 161814582838

Uh, oh! Scuff some of these sterling silver copies up, and black them with some bleach, then...hey presto... Can someone post the seller's entire list from this one listing please? 252077004965

EBay is totally awash with them!

What kind of groat, John? And welcome, by the way!

Doesn't miss a trick, our Dave!