Coinery

Having a bit of a night of it all round!

I've just bought this 191682428067 tonight to flip, does anyone have the Withers book and a couple of minutes spare to properly ID it for me? Only until I get my own copy, of course, which is imminent!

Thanks. DaveG38 kindly gave the link in post #5. The before/after pics are remarkable, but: is a restored coin still the original coin, or is it something else? If you know what I mean...I personally think it's something else, much like a classic car! You can have an immaculate 1960's E-Type, which is 50% new panels and half an engine from a different car (albeit it old stock/re manufactured etc), or a WWII Spitfire, which has been built around 5% of its surviving structure and the ID Plate but, bottom line is, neither are quite the real deal, but an awful lot better than not having one! Terrible grammar I know! Edit: and sentence structure!

Scone you illiterate b****r. How you pronounce it is another matter.Edit: "scon"

I'm happy with just 10%, Dave...so much greed around here!

Tee hee! Scone or scon?

Declan was handing them out for 20thC varieties the last I checked, and Rob for everything else across the board! I've got one from both of them! Anoraks that is!

The right, obviously, as you get a better sense of the depth of field/grade.

Looks to be a fabulous grade too!

Nice one, Declan!

I think you are just stripping out the colour to get rid of the blue, as your pictures now look nearly black and white. Definitely getting better though!

I like the idea but, in reality, both the coin and my fingers are bone dry long before I'd get any chance to rinse OR blow-dry the coin, it evaporates that quickly. I don't treat acetone too seriously to be honest. It will remove a lot of gunk you may have thought you were stuck with but, and more importantly, it also degreases coins very effectively, hopefully ruling out any future print or unevenness of tone. Every little helps, as Azda (or is it Tescos?) would say!

Looks cast to me, probably pewter! What weight is it?

'guaranteed genuine, and from my own collection'! 161814582838

Uh, oh! Scuff some of these sterling silver copies up, and black them with some bleach, then...hey presto... Can someone post the seller's entire list from this one listing please? 252077004965

EBay is totally awash with them!

What kind of groat, John? And welcome, by the way!

Doesn't miss a trick, our Dave!

Was that auction or BIN, Paulus?

It's the irony of the double-standard, Rob, that's all!

love it, and love 'em!

You'd also of course be looking at getting the 8 o'clock obverse fixed at the same time, so I'm guessing it genuinely is an expensive coin-man job? Thinking about it, there'd unlikely be any lustre left following the initial process of soldering, and certainly following the subsiquent removal of the reciprocal clasp. You're probably best off just enjoying it as it is, and saving your money to spend on a nice gothic florin to go with it!

Don't go anywhere near a jeweller! If you can't find or afford a specialist coin man to do the job, leave it where it is! There are some things a jeweller doesn't understand, and that is the effect of heat on a metal that 'can't' subsiquently be cleaned in a jeweller's 'pickling' solution afterwards! Trust me it'll be a big mess, or a a bright shiny coin, whichever you prefer?

Coin vandals Perfect response, brilliant!