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Unless all 5 dies were produced by the same engraver, who really didn't realise a stop should be there?

That is just staggering!

Clogs and pitting are a massive issue unless you have a couple of examples from the same die! I proved this for myself with a supposed no-stop 1700 shilling by finding another example of the same die with only half a stop, ie before the full clog! It's on here somewhere!

You won't be the first to lose the plot on here Speedbird!

Uh, oh!

If it IS a fake, then someone is certainly knocking out some awesome dies, as this coin is clearly hammered. Is it a rare and valuable type? If not I just can't imagine anyone making that kind of effort, especially when they could instead be faking the comparatively simple Anglo-Saxon coins?

But no!

You could balance a powerful magnifying glass over the coin, or maybe even a loupe, and take a macro photo of the glass itself? Just a thought?

I'm definitely in the Vicky/Copper camp on pricing.

Utterly amazing and, as I've said before, I can't believe the stability of the image! It's as if it's attached to a fixed arm...it's that good!

Thanks, this is the only example I have found in almost 3 years of looking. Just very lucky it came in the grade it did, I would have settled for any grade to fill the gap in the collection. It was on eBay item number 351476105264.Wow, very rare, then! Goodness, what a steal too! Were you brave enough to make an offer, or did you snap it straight up, rather than risk losing it?

I've struggled to sell the 45 in the past. Your's also has a nasty edge knock too! Sorry for the hard news!

By at least half IMHO! Worse than that, a lot of people wouldn't buy it at all, which also makes it a hard sale to make. The chances are it's also hairlined, being an ex-mount, though your pictures don't highlight this. If it was from auction as a single lot, they should really have described it as a holed ex-mount!

Nice coin! Do you mean it took you longer than expected to find one in that grade? Did you see many others along the way?

Not at all! We are all in the same boat here...playing, tweaking, experimenting, no perfect way, believe me, I've tried!

Does this mean you have that error in your phone's dictionary as an accepted or first option, Rooney?

Not a cnut spelling error, surely?

Looks post mint damage to me, CM?

Wouldn't they be filling the die letter, not grinding it off?

yep

I echo your thanks to the forum, it has been a great source of learning for me too!

Sounds like you already know the score?

It's not a great coin at all, either, to be honest, whatever the mintage!

Mine's gone. However, of importance here Non is your expenditure? If you've got £80 to spend on a single coin to build your collection, why not spend it on an £80 UNC or decent EF of a different type alrogether? Or even buy 2 £40 coins if it's about building a collection up? It's a pretty decent budget you have for a 20thC coin, don't rush into it! You'll just be giving yourself a resell headache!

'Tis true TG they are didly! You'd need more than 18 of these little 'Blumens' to tip any scales countered by a Charles shilling! I'd try getting in touch with the Withers', but can't yet articulate the issue clearly enough that even I can understand it? Hah! Publication, Peter, I ask you? I'm only regurgitating what's already out there, and just piling a bit of fancy old icing on top of it! I do try and get value for money out of this little pastime of ours, so tinkering around with any purchase I make is all part of the fun! I also have the nature that wants to understand things to the n'th degree before moving on PS: Just realised I've ended nearly every sentence with a smiley! It does make me smile, this coinie life!