Coinery

"Extremely rare...almost impossible to locate in any grade"WHAT?

Doesn't miss a trick, does that canny Scot!

Some lovely presentation going on in this thread!

Think I paid £120 for mine. Nice old lump!

He certainly went for bust with a 1936 penny! Wow!

It looks like it's spent some time in water, sea or river, as it's rather smoothed? Also, without seeing the other side, there looks to be a plugged edge-hole at 9 O'clock? Nice bit of history, but not a collector's piece if there are better examples around for a few extra quid. Thanks for bringing it on here, though! Talking of Edwards, I was staggered to find a beautiful tomb in Gloucester Cathedral last week, which belongs to Edward II. I instantly wanted to collect Edward II coins, just to build on the sense of history I felt, standing before this king's burial spot! Amazing!

Bet Declan kept stum in the company of that lot? Good band, must catch them myself!

Welcome aboard potlings! I guess we don't need to introduce ourselves, as you've already had a good look around! You've done the right thing choosing pre-decimal, however, best education in coins you'll ever receive! It's true!

Yes, agreed!

Nice coin, and good price!

Oh, that's just horrible!

I totally agree with your last sentence. However, I can't follow the idea that a weakly struck coin, fresh out of the mint, couldn't attract the truth of its status as UNC?

Not true! I think it's very high grade with faults! If somebody advertised that as GEF (maybe even AU) with weak strike and a couple of detracting marks, I'd say their statement would be fair! CGS seem to have forgotten to factor the issues into their numerical stamp! But we all know why, don't we?

I'm going to go higher! The obverse eyebrow would normally be very much flattened if the wear on the ear was actually wear. Eyebrow looks good and, in view of the weakness in the reverse shield, I'm going weak ear, not worn. The reverse looks barely worn at all to me, I'd go GEF, maybe AU (but would like an in-hand look at the lustre on the high points for that)! From a CGS point of view, I don't think they should've graded it anything like that high if they are supposedly knocking coins down for strike and damage.......IMHO

Crickey Moses, nothing like waving a flag for bag marks! They're being stored in a box of sand, by the looks of it! Looks to be about 400 grit from the images?

I'll get my coat, then! I Q-tip everything with acetone, and have never seen a white-out, yet! Anyway, all that aside, thank-you for the info.

maybe I could stretch to hiring them at $3.50, then!

Hi John, Speaking for myself, I'm not really talking about 'cleaning' in the traditional sense. I'm more referring to decontamination, which is mostly about removing acid greases, etc. If I find there's a dirty black cotton bud at the end of it, so much the better. CuNi and 500 silver is also appreciative of a degrease too IMHO!

'Tom' does like his hammered shillings, Redd!The lis is most likely a contemporary counterfeit. There are a couple of lis shillings of Liz that are C'feits, but I can barely even make the bust out on your one.

I'm guessing the chap who's repeatingly selling copies at £19.99 on eBay, has the same copies as you've just purchased, Rob? So I'll not waste my time on that one!

Perhaps I could pay you $1.75 plus postage to have a look at them after you? I'm just saving up a few images from eBay past sales, and I'd feel confident in saying the better ones are cast complete with the full edge attached to the obverse, with the reverse inset into it.

I'm guessing that's M M Lis Tower? Doesn't belong to any of the three you've posted.Collectable coins, all of them. Have you been collecting long?

That's a Halfcrown, though, not a shilling? Did it say shilling on the flip? Edit: not the worst I've seen, either! Shame about the grazed AR and couple of scratches! A tiny bit porous too.

Not as far as I know?And you're right, it's already looking a possibility that some die reworking, or secondary sets, are involved. The vertical lines in the shoulder are preliminarily catching my eye, as the second from left one, does not reach to the bottom on some examples, and is faint and frail on others. What happened to the 'ridge' on the die we won't know, but it clearly looks to have been properly smoothed off at the mint at some point (if those coins do indeed turn out to be genuine)? It we could chronologically tie that in with other historical 'developments' on the die, I think it might be an interesting 'tool', as I'm thinking, this could potentially be an area that's ignorantly 'cleaned up' on a cast? I wonder what the lifespan of a cast is, how many coins might be expected from it?