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Maybe we should make this our first 'proper' investigation into a fake series! I feel very uneasy with the statement 'send it to CGS for authentication'! It sends out a very bad message about how we view ourselves as serious collectors! I'd sooner clear it up once and for all on our own terms! It's not rocket science!

If you are serious then I am happy to send it to you on the condition that you put a fiver into a charity box when you get it. As a non-collector I don't really have any use for it and would prefer to give it to someone who is interested rather than just put it back into circulation. Hey, fishsticks, that's very kind, and I'll take you up on your offer! I'll donate £5 to charity, AND send you a fiver for a bottle of wine! Many thanks for your generosity. I genuinely don't know a great deal about the decimal coinage, and only gather it as a bit of fun. These oddities do become important to some people, eventually, but it'll unlikely be in your's or my lifetime. However, it's all a bit of fun, and I thank you again. I'll message you in the morning if that's OK? Have a good evening, Stuart

There's no doubt an indepth, and ongoing, die-study is required here! It would most definitely need to begin with a calculation of original dies, and then good access to an historical archive of images. Also, it would be interesting to know the date we were first plagued with this particular fake, and/or when they first became good enough to require an indepth die study?

I'd pay a fiver for it anytime!

Payments made by BACS or CHAPS are guaranteed cleared funds at the time by the bank...... Not according to the woman at my bank, when I enquired due to anxiety regarding a particular dispatch!That's not to say she was right, of course?

I was told by my bank that even direct transfers can be recalled within a timescale, forget what that was now?

Link added. What a load of old flannel that story is. What a crock of ole blarney! I reckon there's at least 2 a week of these going through!Refreshing change that he's actually 'correctly' called it a Threepence, and not a Sixpence, as is the norm! Shame it weighs nearly the same as a sixpence however.

I can't find the coinageofengland coin anymore, the item numbers above all direct to koscoins now???

Interestingly both of these features also appear to be present on the one coinageofengland are selling on Ebay at the moment 171675159718Jerry Same coin isn't it?

Cheers, Nick!

Now this makes for a refreshing grading approach to a commonly listed pewter coin...321669490983 "GRADING IS A OPEN PIT BUT MY OWN GRADING OF THIS COIN IS 6/10" 6 out of ten it is, then! 60p Edit: connect them up with a coin grading company and they'll take the pewter world by storm!

I bet if we could look at the edge, particularly at 3 and 8 o'clock on the reverse, we'd see some giveaway issues? It doesn't have a milled look about it somehow? Anyone know how many dies might have been made for this issue?

Brilliant, Nick, thank-you!

Does anyone on here know how easy, or whether it's possible, to embed a sound into a word document? What I want is to place a series of small images (I guess a bit like a smiley) into the text, which activate a sound when you click on it or, ideally, hover over it, without taking the reader away from the page. Is this possible? I'd settle for either!

I'm carrying a £10 version in my wallet for a couple of months, just so I can pull it out at the pub one day when the old boys are reading the scarcity reports in the papers! I'll be sure to have a copy of CCGB handy, so I can point to a couple of PAST rarity values...then, K'ching, £50 anyone?

Wow! Really? I didn't know that!

I have to say, I've never observed this, yet, but I am extremely particular about 'decontaminating' and 'flipping' my coins! To be fair, however, it's true that anything bigger than an HC is unsuited to 2x2's and folders, though I do have a couple of crowns in mine! I would definitely source some good thick card dividers, regardless of the coins! 2x2 crown-sized flips have so little card remaining at the edge, and are generally under such tension, that they often unknowingly/knowingly split along the edge of the plastic window, which risks uneven tonal changes! I think I'd look for another alternative if I was thinking of acquiring crowns on a regular basis?

Paulus, Paulus, come over to the light side!

Yes!

Can we see some photos of the edge?

Absolutely, totally agree...will be interesting to look at it, though, even if the details only flag it for a fake?To be fair, where ARE the details for these coins? We revisit them time and time again, but still haven't arrived at a place beyond 'send it to CGS,' and/or a couple of random posts on here, or thereabouts, which is crazy, especially when we batter CGS so badly! Why are we, as a cohesive group of intelligent numismatists, saying 'what do "they" know about coins and grading,' and yet send off all our 'scary' coins to them for endorsement? Are we saying, with that above statement, that we need CGS to tell us what is a Northumberland Shilling, for example, or can we say it for ourselves...as a pretty serious body of collectors?

OK, I'll keep a few flips aside for 2015, just in case!

John Stephenson always seemed to have his finger on the pulse with modern silver, I'd definitely buzz him about it if it's a possible genuine? I'm guessing you wouldn't be flagging it up here unless you had an 'odd' feeling about it? VS and Nick are also pretty on the ball with silver! Peck also has a pretty big resource and insight into G5! Keep us posted...I'm always interested in the material that sits on the fake fringe!

How manipulative of them! 100, my arse, what a pointless 'circulation' mintage, when they are offering coins which they argue 'hypothethically' WON'T be circulation coins on account of their purchase price to the general public! So, general public go Oooooo, one of those, how much is it worth? Hmmm, you can buy a brand new one at the mint! Further edit: so bugger all! Further, further, edit: I'm tired of all this 'intelligent' marketing! My circulation collection will now end at 2014...like that ain't crazy anyways! Bye, bye, RM, from stuart!

Not on your cabbages, old bean!