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I guess the legend errors, etc. could be good pointers, but do we know whether the maundy dies continued into currency use? I'm guessing they did? And if they did, just for debating's sake, what might separate the last maundy coin from the first currency, other than strike pressures? I know it's a grrrr issue, but one that will repeatedly catch out all but the most dedicated collectors of these coins!

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Do we now need to change the Statue of Liberty's right hand to bear a sword?

Very SOHO England 1797! If you're going to have a slabbed collection, it's an obvious choice to re slab a poor slab! You won't hear me say that too often, but BRG's a died-in-the-wool collector of slabbed coins!

Interesting point, VS, but how do we then decipher strong 'early' strikes from Maundy? It seems to me, in that case, that the only identifiers to determine type here are 'indistinguishable' qualities, based on that of a typical 'maundy' coin, and whether the owner is happy to call it such and fit it into his/her maundy collection?

Hey, get bidding, you might get lucky again and win yourself a lovely entombed piece of copper?

Totally agree with you! I would guess however that the farthing I'm selling got its grade on account of the lustre, which sits pretty high on (and over, in some instances) the devices (in places which would ordinarily appear to be wear)? My honest thoughts are the coin has been struck from a worn/knackered/corroded die, and maybe weakly so too? Indeed, these blinking TPGCs! Oh........"Some nice things on there Stuart."

I tell you, error, this is the world's best coin forum! Ain't it just?

OK, if only to get eBay throwing my .99p starts to the top of the pile because you've clicked on the link, I add this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/george-coins/m.html?item=331409764825&hash=item4d298fb1d9&pt=UK_Coins_BritishHammered_RL&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Maybe of interest, and likely to go cheap are a Brit error halfpenny (and a W&M unbarred Maria farthing...Scott et al.), a slabbed C2 '74 farthing, and a Lockett/Asherson provenanced James I Trefoil shilling.

Comparable to the egg collectors! As kids we would take one egg, which I know we shouldn't have, of course, but these adult collectors take the entire clutches of rare birds...I don't get that at all!

Many happy returns old bean!

Yet another TPGC cock-up!

And PF on the slab?????

Nice rims!

Me too! My classic example, and I'm sorry it's a link to my site, but it's the easiest way, is this Halfgroat of Elizabeth! It has weak centres (as with most of them) but a truly lovely coin, colour, everything, in fact...not a coin I'd be selling, except I have an example with the bust you see as my avatar! Eye-appeal is everything! http://george-coins.co.uk/ProductImages.aspx?ProductId=3129578

Has anyone ever noticed that a lovely field in daylight, can look like it's been treated to a wire-wool clean under artificial light? Also, when we look at coins under magnification, at what point do we stop? If we viewed a coin by an electron microscope it would look like the moon, full of craters! So, on a slightly more serious note, should we say, when describing a coin, 'stunning coin, amazing fields, when viewed in daylight. However, it looks rubbish under artificial light!' Just out of interest, what does your coin look like in-hand, in daylight?

In which case, Morpheus, you have done exceedingly well, as I would never have guessed that English wasn't your first language, rather that you were an Englishman with a few literary hitches! Well done, do stay onboard!

A must-have if it's within budget I'd say! Good luck, would love to see your images if you go for it!

I'd love to know more about this seller and his dust, as I find it totally inconceivable that such a practice can fool or improve a high-res image of a coin?And, more to the point, if you and another person have been able to observe it, it must be perceivable, and something I'd love to see for myself! Do you have any examples or images you could post?

Damian, this is a really good post, and definitely something I've pondered myself! I have noticed that certain coins in good daylight look like the original seller's photograph you posted but, equally, put them under artificial lights (any bulb in your house) at night and they look hairlined! So, which is the genuine coin surface as, to reiterate, I can't see the hairlines in the day, but can see them as if they were motorways viewed from a holiday flight at night? All of Buck's coins have this ethereal glow about them in the images...I really don't know at what point a coin carries the baggage of being cleaned, at which point hairlines interrupt normal vision and become offensive? Really good post, as I say!

There are a few nice EFs up for grabs http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coin-Victorian-Penny-Young-Head-EF-1855-/381048592159 Most of the grading seems to be by consensus rather than by any analysis of the coin's wear which is why the EFs end up as UNCs and the VFs as EFs. But I can't grade for toffee so... I propose a new two-tier grading system. I was just reading some of his feedback though and I feel sorry for him actually, assuming his responses are honest as it would appear that other sellers are trying to discredit him on false grounds. To be fair, I've bought a number of coins from Lucido, and it's always been straightforward. I just found this particular coin amusing, as he's not generally as bad as this?I'm going to check out his feedback, as I don't recall looking before.

No, buy it Paulus. Why is this in here rather than the my wife has bled me dry thread? Oi, you! No only joking keep that thread for the nice stuff that crops up. I think bringing wives into it is a bit unfair, despite furs being mentioned. It's the Dr. Jekyll thread. This one is the Edward Hyde. Furs aren't just for girls, you know!

No, buy it Paulus. Why is this in here rather than the my wife has bled me dry thread? Oi, you!

Lucido has finally lost it! Victoria Penny in EF 291307099653