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PENNY 1855 - is it 5 over 6 ?
Coinery replied to numismatist's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Has to be a good shout, Declan, shame the OP's pictures aren't clearer? -
1. Magic!2. No thank-you!
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That's an awesomely good point!
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Peewee! Edit: frickin autocorrect...."Pheeeew!"
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PENNY 1855 - is it 5 over 6 ?
Coinery replied to numismatist's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
I can't see it, sorry! Possibly a poorly double stamped (partially rotated) second 5? Looking at the first of the two fives it's looking like there was something going on with the punch anyway? -
As are the coins, Sir!
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Cheers, Mark!
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Hello, Debbie!
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I've only just realised, when cutting bust 1F out, that the topmost curl at the back of the head has broken away somewhere between the Cross-Crosslet and the Martlet/Pheon, which means nearly all the sixpences will be with the broken curl. Anyway, it would be relatively easy to date the fracture from the bust usage across the groats and the 6ds! One day!
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Your's does have a 2 in date (1592)! Lol yes i know but i was more curious of your date, plus why on the OBV of yours, but as you say its easy To mistake an E for a 2 lol, Obviously if a pile of punches were sitting around Then it Would easily picked up, but that would then beg the question as to why more errors did'nt occurPlenty did but, in the main, I'm guessing most people were especially cautious, most of the time, she was a bit of a tyrant, our Liz!
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Is there anyone else out there seeing a 2 now I've highlighted it, or am I still alone on this? Which i don't mind, of course! ?
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Maybe, or just an accidental double-strike of the P punch? Who knows he might've had the wobbles when he realised he'd just smacked a 2 in the legend?As you say, though, there would probably be some sort of attempt to obliterate it, as I'm sure a double-bounced P wouldn't reap anything like the penalty a glaring error would?
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Your's does have a 2 in date (1592)!
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No, not the same date, but from a coin with a 2 in the date. My point being, that if a 2 punch is at hand, it sometimes gets used in error.
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I think you'll have to file a case to get your final value fees back! Or at least you needed to a year ago, the last time I was active on there?
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Another example of 2 in legend.
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OK, PM sent (for personal collection)!
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The ghost/shadow after the S also looks to be a V, and the other straight-edged shadow of a letter before the I is not in alignment with the strong V beside it, which makes me wonder about a coin getting stuck in the machinery and damaging the die? Do you know whether they were grinding off and remaking dies from old stock in this period, as was common with the hammered coinage?
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Yes, welcome aboard! Looking forward to seeing some pictures!
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I'd say it's not a variety, but rather a die identifier...it looks to me, especially as you can also see the shadow of an 'I', that a coin got stuck in the machine and damaged the die? Or, and I don't know anything about this, do they reuse (grind off [not completely]) the old dies, as they sometimes do with hammered? Thanks for that. Very interesting, and something I'd not considered. I hadn't noticed a shadow 'I' either. Do you mean slightly angled and just to the left of the Tertivs 'I'? if it is it would probably also be in alignment with the wonky lower V'.Reaching for my loupe... Yes, there's also what looks to be a shadow of a letter, maybe V, after the S too?
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I'd say it's not a variety, but rather a die identifier...it looks to me, especially as you can also see the shadow of an 'I', that a coin got stuck in the machine and damaged the die? Or, and I don't know anything about this, do they reuse (grind off [not completely]) the old dies, as they sometimes do with hammered?
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Arthur, try Colin's website 'about farthings'! He's a member of this forum, and has a link in his signature! Otherwise Google it, it's worth a browse if farthings are your bag!
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1878 Raised Dot Penny
Coinery replied to loose54's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Yes, very good, Peck!