Chingford

Agreed 8/7, it looks to be a Bramahs 10b; The 7 shows very plainly beneath the 8, the upstroke dividing the lower loop of the 8 into two unequal parts, The left being smaller. The Rev would have either a single E in DEF or E/E, the second being scarcer.

I would agree with that, the 2nd most common of the 12 generally acknowledged 1874 varieties. Looks around GVF, retail price £30-£35 perhaps less as mid-grade bun pennies are hardly flying off the shelves at present. The 1d boys seem to go for GEF + unless its one of those "RARE" blank discs...open 3 type thingies . I won't split hairs on the grade but it is a very nice GVF maybe approaching NEF. If MP sold it he would grade GEF. Close, I would have guessed 'Practically UNC'

Follow the link to Information about the coin, the value, £400 is the current scrap value, circa £25/gramme 22 cts. http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/1981gibraltar50poundsweddingofprincecharlesandladydiana.html Regards John

It will interesting to see a clearer image once you have it in hand, I have generally found GeoIV to have very few Errors/variaties. Missing bottom Serifs to the Ns of Britainniar, highlighted by another Forum member a few years ago, is the only GeoIV Penny Legend variety I can honestly recount.

A little transparant as well I notice

There are bronzed currency coins in the Copper series, the colour would be as the bronzed proof, slighty 'watered down', but would have mirrored surfaces but not as highly polished as the proof. I have attached images of a Copper, Bronzed and Bronzed currency which may help. The 1st 2 look both prooflike to me lol You are correct, I should have said Copper proof, bronzed proof, Bronzed currency

There are bronzed currency coins in the Copper series, the colour would be as the bronzed proof, slighty 'watered down', but would have mirrored surfaces but not as highly polished as the proof. I have attached images of a Copper, Bronzed and Bronzed currency which may help.

2790 - 725, 2250, 2800 - 40, 150, 2801 - 250, 850

I believe he is a sculptor, most of his designs were used on commonwealth unofficial patterns, the only model I know he is attributed to is the jersey model 4 shillings. There are no references in Rodgers Toy coins. Hello Chingford, thankyou for your responce , i am a Toy Money Collector for 12 years and use Rogers book, i recently came across Model Coins from the patina collection and these are the trial pieces to test the striking of the different metals, and have the word MODEL on one side of the crown, but there are quite a few with DRG below the bust and were sold in a recent auction. Regards Tony Not TonyPlayMoney?? are you I'll dig around a little, I know of the 'Fantasy' pieces but thought only the Jersey coin had Model stamped on it, I should imagine that these are relatively new issues though. Regards John

I believe he is a sculptor, most of his designs were used on commonwealth unofficial patterns, the only model I know he is attributed to is the jersey model 4 shillings. There are no references in Rodgers Toy coins.

If all things were well on 09/01/2011, I would use that date, if not go backwards to a date were you are sure all was well. I would also create a backup as the restore doesn't like interruptions etc..and if it doesn't work you are still able to go back to the start and adopt another route/solution. System protection, I am unsure, best read about first. The Computer will tell Microsoft at some point it hasn't received the latest update and it will download and try to install it again, you can turn this feature off and/or ask for a prompt before installing, usually on shut down you will see , shut down & install updates alongside your usually shut down button, Alternatively a little gold shield right hand side of bottom toolbar. It might be worth going onto a Computer Tech forum amd raise the renaming question, could be a very simple process or they could confirm that restoring is the best route.

It's whatever is current that replaced a supposedly crappy version previous to that. One of those was Vista and the other windows 7(?), but I couldn't tell you which way round they went as I'm from Barcelona when it comes to computers, so left the changeover to someone else. I haven't a clue how to uninstall & revert. You could try the system restore, be careful that you choose a point before the update was installed, but after anything that has taken a few hours to complete as it will probably overwrite anything after the restoration point.

Coin diameter; 34mm Penny, 28mm Halfpenny and 22mm Farthing

Try again, If you are not looking to make a return, you could give them to a Charity organisation to profit, potentially you have around £7,500.00 at current selling prices, that way you can be sure the right people benefit. John

Mr F welcome to the forum and an interesting first post!! The biggest problem with your approach is that inevitably a number of coins would end up getting sold for profit, whilst your best efforts may be to prevent that, it is inevitable. If you went to a coin fair and gave them to 150 collectors, I would guess that only a percentage would genuinely hold on to the coin or keep it in their collection. I know that may seem like a negative viewpoint, but I am just being honest

Try these links for reference material, http://www.tokensociety.org.uk/topics/toycoins.shtml http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/Toy%20Coins.html http://wbcc-online.com/new-releases/gbmodels.html The second has some images and prices John

Lots of fakes for 1845, 48, 51 and 60 Copper Halfpennies have been listed recently, one dealer lists them as Copies, this particular one has provided false provenace so I have reported it as with the others I have seen but Ebay has let the auctions run, on all but one in the past. There is a particular feature the forgers have wrong on all, possibly intentionally so as not to be criminally liable for counterfeiting on coins not stamped 'copy'.

I take it that *victorian*bronze* and *classic*british*coins* are one and the same seller? Not Martin this time, seller used to be Mog461, I bought from him a couple of years ago & was pleased with the purchases/price. Could just be a couple of over zealous bidders, then again the IDs are protected.

One of interest, 1825, 26 & 27 Pennies Combi seems to have attracted some interest, currently 49 Bids standing at £1,760.00. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150519850666&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Heads up lads and ladies, Bernie Workman emailed me last night, he is putting part of his collection up for sale through Colin Cookes website. Bernie has one of the most comprehensive collection of 1860-1953 Bronze pennies I personally know, so I've asked Bernie for a little more detail/ highlights, for the meantime I have attached the link sent to me. http://www.colincooke.com/index.html Definately one for the diary Regards John

Looking at the coin as a whole, the curvature of the legend, rather than the individual letters, the repunched V looks to me to be closer to the correct line. I would say that it looks to be a corrected misalignment. To be honest Chingford, do you wear glasses, are they broken? The legs of the top V are pointing to VENUS, they look like they're about to take off or have just started to. The bottom stamp of this looks more in alignment than the top, perhaps the legs of the V are a smidge out, but it sure as hell looks better to me than the top punch does It is my opinion an over struck V to correct alignment, The die was probably corrected by eye, not using x200 magnification as you have shown, Victorian coinage of all denominations have these corrections in both date and legend.