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12 ft Sunflowers

You would need to be a member to submit direct to NGC yourself, okay if you plan a good number. You can use a member dealer, Numistacker is one I know in London, there is a price guide and instruction on his website.

PCGS are in France and will only accept packages delivered by hand (appointment) or courier. No couriers will insure packages containing coins, all in the small print. You can independently insure the package. NGC have a London Office, delivery by appointmrnt, Courier and Royal Mail, Special delivery would insure up to £2500.00. Fill in return postage form, and tick box for USA grading. If coins are graded in UK you will be charged VAT.

I was giving an example of low mintage UK coins where the dies were used to produce other Commonwealth/Countries coinage. This could be part of the reason why some coins are relatively few in number.

You overlook that the RM struck coinage and produced dies for Commonwealth and other Countries, some of which our Monarch was Head of State. The 1860 Halfpenny Obv die was used for Isle of Man coinage. A small number of coins could have been struck for Pyx, testing purposes, or marketing.

NGC rates vary depending on your own submission which requires membership, or going through a dealer. If you have only a few coins to do, a dealer would be best value at approx. £30 to £50 each, the first has a ceiling value of £250 and £2500 for the second. These numbers are grading only, and currently take around 2 months to turnaround.

I sold it to another collector

Adams coin is currently residing in a NGC MS61 slab after being carefully conserved, was in a CGS65 slab before being broken out and sold raw at LCA, Didn't sell at Goldberg's Auction $8,000 - $10,000 There are currently two NGC MS65 1827 Pennies, one BN the other RB.

One I had for a while, now part of a Gentleman's Choice collection

Spoke to Michael this morning, He is making available his article on the CP1847 Medusa, a significant and recent Copper Penny find, details on the link http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/CP1847M-Medusa.htm

I can understand a 4 being in the graders mind as the initial thought would be the remains of the crosslet to the right of the 5 and the seemingly diagonal remains within the loop of the 5. However the diagonal has a distinct curvature, giving rise to a rounded numeral, and there are no remaining signs of the upright, I would think the remains of it would be obvious being the larger and stronger part of a 4. I looked at the possibility of a 3, Mangahas records an occurrence of a 5 over 3 in Halfpennies, looking at the coin it is easy to image a 3, and the CP1853 has several different variations in positioning, size and re cutting, but the 3 has a rounded top, the top of the numeral is very straight and rises from left to right, it also has a definable dip in the middle. but would be worth overlaying the different types to see if there is a fit. Personally I would still go for a 5 over 5, again there are several variations in both positioning, formation and re cutting of the 5's in 55, especially when taking the observations above into account,. Would be worth overlaying both 3 and 5 to find a conclusive answer.

Yes, that is the coin and platform I bought from, I emailed Richard some images I have, hopefully He can use them to get a clearer image of the over date.

Lost a lot of my Library, HD Failure and corrupt Backup, will email you with what i can find.

Example 3 Alderley Collection is correct I bought it, subsequently sold it on a couple of years ago

So as not to be confused with Ebay offerings, the three can be seen top and bottom to the left of the 4,

The same can be said of Geo IV , W1111, and early Victorian Copper pennies, clearly a lion medallion on the centre of the breast plate, only really identifiable on choice or proof coins, but lost over time through die wear after 1841

The first reference I came across was in Coin Market Values in 1998, described as 1858 8/9 Large Rose, not having seen one or an image I thought it could have been a reference to a full rose, as most CP1858 are missing the top petal. It wasn't until several years later I found my first one. I thought at first it was a Penny Obv paired with Halfpenny Reverse until I looked at the trident.