Gollum

According to our esteemed Mr Groom, there are two kinds of 1959 Scottish shilling. Look at the 3 little diamonds at the base of the crown. Type 1: all 3 touch the baseline Type 2: only the left hand diamond touches the baseline. In my experience, type 2 is commoner. 18 Type 2s have passed through my hands in the last 5 years, compared to 12 Type 1s. Thanks Declan. I was rather confused as I don't have any reference books for this as yet, I still hope the wife will oblige me soon, after all it is my money she spends . How are we doing with finding me my penny ? .

Correct No-one. There has not been a King (or Queen) of England since 1707.

William IV. nope

I can say that the following happened today. My brown / pink 1950 shilling I cleaned with a dremel and a soft pad using aluminum cleaner, it came up silver ... interesting. My dark green and ugly 1946 Halfpenny ditto above but I used jewelers rouge on it and it looks rather shiny and nice if not "authentic" for others. My other 1953 Halfpenny also dark green got dumped in some caustic soda and came out rather the worse for wear, although I think the pits in it are from the Verdigris being eaten. My Farthings are sitting here looking rather ugly and one is indecipherable apart from its date. So I may try those next. All the above apart from the first one were scrappers according to many. So no harm done. It's my 1907 halfpenny and all them Pennies I am looking at that worry me... Still.

Ok, so tonight I got given a mix of old pennies, farthings, sixpences, a george vi english shilling that has NO silver on it, and looks copper, some other stuff, a lot of it is covered in some really hard encrusted stuff like that looks lime and green junk, verdigris ?. So how to clean them all up and remove it all, I read on the forum to use Balsamic Vinegar, is that the best thing to use or is there other ways that you would approve of without doing too much harm. Thanks

I do, I hope to become as conversant with many aspects of this as you lot, I want to have a complete set of decimal coins to date ( all UNC if possible )as well as a decent set of pre decimal coins. Particularly threepenny bits both bronze and silver, sixpences, half crowns and crowns. Oh and any others I can lay my hands on in the meantime or between collections. Wasting time is a sin.

I must have 30 of the blighters left from NEF to UNC after buying a job lot years ago.These sell for 99p on Ebay so I can't be bothered to list. graffiti on coins is the same as on everything else... Want to sell me one Peter ? paypal ?, if so throw me a price all in will you. Take a deep breath and save up. I was an underbidder on the two numbered pennies in the Adams sale in 2003 and they hammered at 600 and 920 respectively. My halfpenny cost me £650 in 2007 and is numbered 138/405. Some have sold for over £1K. The numbers in the fields refer to the quantity of that denomination struck and the total bronze respectively (see Graham Dyer's article in the 1982 BNJ (vol.52) p.234-240. Obviously there is no duplication of number combinations. They appear to be some sort of mint control or record. How they escaped into the collecting fraternity isn't certain, but they seem to have appeared in the 1940-50s. I am not 100% sure how, so will not speculate. Thank you Rob. I can't access that yet though, or find it online. So are you saying that they struck 138,000 or merely a 138 copper and 405 Bronze. i know others will understand this off the bat, but I am a bit slower I am afraid, and as it is a bit special I thought I would be the daft sod to ask about it for other beginners who wandered across it but didn't want to look daft asking here ( looking daft is a family trait, so I'm not bothered ). I thought it had to do with how many 000's before the die was knackered !. Oh well. That would be 138 tons of halfpennies and 405 tons of bronze in total by 1866. The one on Gouby's site is 139 and 406, so possibly they were sampled every complete ton struck. Blimey oh riley. Now that is a lot of ha'pennys . Thanks for the explanataion Rob, it was appreciated.

I must have 30 of the blighters left from NEF to UNC after buying a job lot years ago.These sell for 99p on Ebay so I can't be bothered to list. graffiti on coins is the same as on everything else... Want to sell me one Peter ? paypal ?, if so throw me a price all in will you. Take a deep breath and save up. I was an underbidder on the two numbered pennies in the Adams sale in 2003 and they hammered at 600 and 920 respectively. My halfpenny cost me £650 in 2007 and is numbered 138/405. Some have sold for over £1K. The numbers in the fields refer to the quantity of that denomination struck and the total bronze respectively (see Graham Dyer's article in the 1982 BNJ (vol.52) p.234-240. Obviously there is no duplication of number combinations. They appear to be some sort of mint control or record. How they escaped into the collecting fraternity isn't certain, but they seem to have appeared in the 1940-50s. I am not 100% sure how, so will not speculate. Thank you Rob. I can't access that yet though, or find it online. So are you saying that they struck 138,000 or merely a 138 copper and 405 Bronze. i know others will understand this off the bat, but I am a bit slower I am afraid, and as it is a bit special I thought I would be the daft sod to ask about it for other beginners who wandered across it but didn't want to look daft asking here ( looking daft is a family trait, so I'm not bothered ). I thought it had to do with how many 000's before the die was knackered !. Oh well.

They are Pyx pieces, internal mint tallies of numbers (actually tons) struck best reference is the detailed study by Michael Gouby here Rob posted a picture of his a while back. but can't remember which thread David I read that page a while back David, but I don't understand it or the actual reason for the numbering I am afraid.

I must have 30 of the blighters left from NEF to UNC after buying a job lot years ago.These sell for 99p on Ebay so I can't be bothered to list. graffiti on coins is the same as on everything else... Want to sell me one Peter ? paypal ?, if so throw me a price all in will you.

Don't these new fangled high tech places do video conference bidding ?

I am very Discerning Debbie. I got a 2006 VC 50p today from the wife in her change as well. I now have to get the other one to match it

5, I am cheap to maintain.

I have quite a few coins in the category you're talking about! E.g. modern, quite high grade, low value, that sort of thing. Sure, go ahead, rub it in why dont you... what do YOU call modern anyway. Nice this forum, everyone else has the coins except me.. I MEANT - spare coins! Coins that would suit you down to the ground!! Going cheep How cheap ?, I am a budgie. LOL. "Pretty polly, pretty polly". If you're serious I could look through my tins and bags of stuff and sort out some stuff, or you could just tell me what kind of things you're after (oh, anything? oh, all right then ) and I'll see if I've got 'em. It will take a wee while though, I'm not very mobile these days. How did you guess !, yep anythng will do fine. Thank You.

I see there is a for sale section but I can not find a wanted one, is that deliberate or just an omission. I want lots of coins ( yeah I am talking those you lot call junk but not scrap ) to start with. I mean how many of you have old pennies laying about you want to get shot of, or dare i say half pennies, should be a lot of beginners happy to grab them ust to start a collection with. Bugger Ebay, offer them to your inexperienced and gullible new members ( yep that's me ). Gollum is now in the scrap metal business I suppose.

Funny how many Numismatists have metal detectors too .

Mine is exactly the Same aa that and got it last Year from Aldi for €30 Typical, everyone has one but me, and when I want one it isn't around unless you have an amex platinum card, I used to like you Azda but you can go off some people really fast around here :lol:

Hi Rob. If he/she has one of each date in decent condition then I am happy if the price is right, if he/she wants to get rid of the lot at a decent price I will also still be happy.

Gollum, Here is a "new" QX3 Digital Blue Microscope for $49.95. It is basically the same as the QX5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/QX3-Computer-Microscope-Digital-Blue-New-/260900460896?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbee11960#ht_500wt_1180 Thanks for that sadly.. Not available to United Kingdom

How much do you want for them ?.

I have quite a few coins in the category you're talking about! E.g. modern, quite high grade, low value, that sort of thing. Sure, go ahead, rub it in why dont you... what do YOU call modern anyway. Nice this forum, everyone else has the coins except me.. I MEANT - spare coins! Coins that would suit you down to the ground!! Going cheep How cheap ?, I am a budgie.

Ok returning to this again !. Hypothetical question. If I have a rare penny that is covered in verdigris, I have 2 options for it, one being the bin, the other is I clean it and polish it and it looks nice and shiny afterward, surely that is better than throwing it in the bin, surely saving any coin is better than throwing it away, what if one day it becomes the only example left, is everyone going to moan that it was saved by cleaning it. Answers on the back of a penny black please.

I have quite a few coins in the category you're talking about! E.g. modern, quite high grade, low value, that sort of thing. Sure, go ahead, rub it in why dont you... what do YOU call modern anyway. Nice this forum, everyone else has the coins except me..

Oh just great Tom, as if it's not enough I am bored, you send me to Coin News and the first article is about the ruddy Titanic !, nice, bored and then I get a sinking feeling !.

I am so bored that I am really bored, more bored than I was bored before, and 3 times as bored as I was bored earlier. I mean Bored bored, so bored I am bored, the kind of bored where you are really so bored that you are really really bored. I guess I am so bored that I am bored rigid, and that is really bored, the kind of bored where if your bored you want to hit your skull against the wall out of being bored. ah well I guess it isn't as bored as I was bored yesterday, now that was extremely bored, the kind of bored that meant you were so bored you wanted to take a gun abd shoot your brain out of it's skull for some fun. I am bored.