Paulus

Boo, did you not have any pics to go on before you bought it? I find the CGS population database very valuable as a resource, but their early pics are rubbish and some have no pics (as pics used to be an optional extra), perhaps the case with yours? Personally for my slabbed coins (< 1% of my collection), I need decent pics, else I lose all connection with them!

Let's see pics MBE, you know the rules! As I said, I also wanted a nice Viccy halfpenny copper example, and this is what I have gone for

With you on this Colin, I believe there are several valid reasons why people (including experienced dealers and collectors) may want to get a coin slabbed, the reason you cite being one of them

I am mean! Yes, on reflection I would grade it a smidge higher than Fine, approaching GF (lol)

@mrbadexamplelike you I have recently had an urge to acquire a decent Viccy copper penny example, and a halfpenny I now have this penny (which ticks all my boxes), and am considering a halfpenny from the same seller Please let me know if this is the kind of example you are after

Just Fine for me I'm afraid, sorry!

I agree with Peter, that example is not particularly choice

Welcome Et Tu! If genuine, that is a half groat - the 2 pellets to the right of the bust denote two pence (half a groat) My guess is that it is a low grade genuine example of a half groat

Apropo of nothing, April Fool's day is still a week away ...

If I didn't have a copy already, I'd be snapping up the Lloyd Bennett one at £18 delivered, especially if new / as new!

This is a hell of a mystery, it must be thinner, can you confirm that?

No worries, yes, Paul! Richard's Forum name gets everyone (unsurprisingly!)

Welcome Michelle Just down to poor standards and quality control at the Mint, all too common these days!

One good reference book on Charles I coins is Sylloge of Coins of the British Isles (SCBI) Vol 33 - The John G. Brooker Collection My favourite period is pretty much the whole of the 17th century

I do not any longer regard these as coins of the realm, I see no difference between these and some tat produced by Westminster or The London Mint Office Yes I know they are 'approved by the Queen'

Chris' group is designed to test the RM's narrow definition of legal tender - so far no-one has posted that they have been able to pay court fines with these coins! And yes, virtually nowhere to go!

I imagine the response they would give to a FOI request would be the (or their) definition of legal tender. Interesting posts in Chris' Facebook Group ' Pay your court debt/fines in £20, £50 and £100 coins NOW' Greed has got the better of them imo

From the DNW auction Richard? That's a tactic I haven't tried, nice one

Please do! Be glad to give an opinion on any, as would many of us. I for one don't know much/anything about world coins however ... Your photos will be better if taken with the coins out of the flips Overall GF on your 1915 halfcrown imo (from those pics)

Hi Weaver Good thread! I collect predominantly milled English silver types, with sidelines in Conder tokens and broad copper and bronze type examples, I've been branching back as far as Tudor hammered a little, and starting to dabble in proofs too. Excellent advice given above, they key distinction will be that between buying English coins because you like them, or because they interest you, as opposed to buying for investment. EBay or a Facebook Group for world coin collectors may be the best way of selling the world coins you do not want. Have fun out there and ask anything you like on here (with pictures) before making big buying decisions

You're spot on with that Peter, they are nice but not quite nice enough, there are better out there and I won't be wanting to upgrade. Thanks very much for all your thoughts gents Back they go (I think!)

I hope you will forgive my novice-like question on these - I am relatively new to proofs, only having started taking an interest over the last year, and the literature I have does not seem to give much detail about them, Questions seem to arise on this Forum frequently regarding is it or is it not a proof, are any perceived hairlines from the dies or post-mint, and what is the difference (if any) between Specimen and Proof. So I have on approval this 1902 matching Matt Proof set, which I like. I would assess the coins as 'virtually as struck ((but not fully FDC), problem-free, and matt proof'. I am running it past you guys as part of due diligence. They come with a matching Maundy set and the original box, which I have not pictured. Any input very gratefully received what are your thoughts @VickySilver?

The RM and banks are no longer taking these back at FV, this whole con has now been exposed and undermined imo Chris has a Facebook Group devoted to the topic, ' Pay your court debt/fines in £20, £50 and £100 coins NOW '

All coins arrived today, very happy, thanks Pete

This has just arrived, very happy, thanks Pete